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Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:34:45 GMT
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Richard Franks wrote:
(linux)
I tried (actually, I'm in win at the moment so I can't remember the exact
filename names!):
$ java -jar gui_streaming_client.jar
etc.

Try running the command inside run.bat.  After getting it all back on one
line, it's:

java -classpath
external_classes\icebrowserlitebean.jar;%JAVA_HOME%\lib\tools.jar;gui_streaming_news.jar
sproat.lugnet.news.streaming.GUIClient

Oops.  Hmmm.  I need to fix that.  For Linux, it'd probably be:

java -classpath
external_classes/icebrowserlitebean.jar;$JAVA_HOME/lib/tools.jar;gui_streaming_news.jar
sproat.lugnet.news.streaming.GUIClient

I originally used the -jar option, but Sun's JVM seems to have an issue with
that and a classpath on the command line.  After I added the Ice browser jar
file, I couldn't my jarfile's manifest to load my app class.  Bummer.  :-P

Was the cold response the result of my presentation, or did the app just bite?
Probably because it requires a little more than "point and click" to get it
working, and we're all lazy? :) Seriously though - it is pretty easy to make
java apps into applets (and have the same source code for both), why not add an
init(), and make it into an applet?

I thought about that.  Due to the in-browser JVM's security model, the applet
can't open a network connection to any server but the one it was served from.
IOW, the client applet wouldn't work unless it was downloaded directly from
lugnet.com .

I guess it could work from another server, if that server redirected all HTTP
to lugnet.com , but there are several issues I'd need to work out, some of
them non-technical by nature.

Actually, I do think this app rocks (even though I haven't seen it yet!).. but
we can finally implement and prototype some of those features *on the client
side* that Todd doesn't have time to play with. Eg. Any number of post-rating
views (time-based, total votes, unaminous votes... if we wanted :)

Yup!  e.g., I'm working on a message filter class -- it's something like a
killfile (I think) but based upon any kind of message content, using regexps
set by the user.

That's if we
can get a rating stream!

I thought the message scores would be in a message header, but it appears that
it's stored elsewhere.  :-/

Cheers,
- jsproat

--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@io.com> ~~~ http://www.io.com/~jsproat/
Card-carrying member of the Star-Bellied Sneech Preservation Society



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  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Jeremy H. Sproat writes: bite? (...) or, have it connect to your spooling message server... (...) nope, though Todd said it's possible to have it in the avid.cgi output... I was thinking of how we could remotely vote... (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) The ratings are actually meta-data separate from the actual messages. (The message headers and bodies are constant but the ratings change over time.) What I need to figure out before serving a rating stream is how efficiently updates could be (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  

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  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) I did, although I was too ashamed to admit that I couldn't get it working.. (linux) I tried (actually, I'm in win at the moment so I can't remember the exact filename names!): $ java -jar gui_streaming_client.jar (couldn't find the ice html (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  

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