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(...) You know, I don't get that. I've seen lots of newsgroups explode into US v. Canada or US v. UK debates, and its always so silly. Ultimately, you get a tiny little say in what goes on in your government and I get a tiny little say in mine, but (...) (26 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nitpick: You got the wording slightly wrong (which can make a world of difference if you start analyzing it) "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not (...) (26 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi! (...) <culturerant> I'm from Detroit. Half of my family came from Ontario in the early decades of this century; the other half is from Ohio. I've got Canadian, English, Welsh, Norman, Saxon, Oneida, and Lord knows what other identity. What's (...) (26 years ago, 15-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mr L F Braun wrote in message <373D07C9.3E786497@p...su.edu>... (...) wrong.) (...) Your entirely ignoring the reason for the Declaration of Independance... The reason the United States has its own government totally independant of England is (...) (26 years ago, 16-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The main beef I have with foreigners is that, for the most part, their money is prettier than ours. Who the hell picked green as the color of money? (26 years ago, 16-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks, I was doing it from memory - thinking I got it right and noticed that I was wrong after the fact. I think the commas I left out are more significant than security, but it's better to have it all. (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi. (...) But, the people of the colonies and the people of Britain had different worries. I don't want to get into a historical debate, because I am simply not equipped to do so...I mean I'm ignorant in comparison to you. (unless you're (...) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, but have you checked out the new blow-dried Andrew Jackson on the 20? We're moving that way :-) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you think that's gel I see in his portrait? It looks like he's fresh from the stylist. :-) Duane (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure, lots of countries have pretty money. Some are outright garish. But I think the greenback has a certain understated elegance to it. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yeah, "but he's worth it!";-) -John (...) (26 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Sorry for the absence--it's been a long week. (...) I'm not talking about accepting French aid--which was instrumental to our success--but in exalting the French and the aristocracy of that country. There was a ton of Francophilia going on in the (...) (26 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi again, (...) I try only to make stuff up when it's inconsequential. ;) My "field" isn't early US/18th C. Britain, it's later, so all I have is ancillary knowledge and methodological things. I'm in agreement with the "they had different worries" (...) (26 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Apologies--I snipped the conversation-order. Erk. I need to stop working so late. LFB. (26 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The people" - then and now - are whatever people we assume the constatution governs. That has clearly changed. I don't have answers to the fine points (e.g. are illegal aliens part of the people?) but I think that we can comfortably agree (...) (26 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Massachusetts militia were organized by towns. I think under an elected officer. The towns of course were (and still are) governed by open town meeting (total democracy).I don't recall how a leader was chosen when the militia of several (...) (26 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(The Color of Money [isn't that a movie?] stuff snipped) (...) The stylist may simply have been afraid of him. Look at the eyes--they're absolutely psychotic in a way I've never seen on US money. So he's coiffed *and* crazy; this may be part of the (...) (26 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Plus a certain understated recognition value. There's a brief piece on US currency and its legitimacy as a *global* standard of exchange in the New York Times magazine this weekend--worth reading, even if the nationalistic hyperbole gets (...) (26 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It might be pretty to look at, but I think it is a waste. Sure, the coins will "last longer, thus reducing printing costs associated with bills". But who really wants to carry around big, heavy dollar coins? And it will probably be big - size (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The big failing was the thickness. Had it been twice as thick, there probably wouldn't have been such a lousy response to it. It really was way too quarterlike (the infamous "Carter Quarter," which you can still get in large numbers from (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Augh! Quoting from (URL) (...) Why couldn't they have gone with a 27 or 28mm diameter? That would have been enough to differentiate the two coins! At least it won't have the same 'reeded' edge as a quarter! Hopefully, the thickness and weight (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Augh! is right! Oh, that's just plain idiotic. The only rationale I can see is that they don't want to have to retool all of the old coin-op machines in the post office and public transit around the country (provided it will be about the same (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My mistake. Same size. I still think it is not needed. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a better explanation than anything I thought up. It especially makes sense, if the major rationale for a new dollar coin is for it to be used in vending machines. And if the size limit for vending machines is the 26.5mm quarter. (...) (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't forget-- this is America where a) bigger is better, b) bigger is more valuable, and 3;) therefore a dollar coin must be the size of a coaster. I point to Suzy B as an attempt to the contrary to rest my case. Oh, and I forgot-- the land (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Am I the only one who likes the SueB? I never got them confused with quarters (but I was in the third grade) and still feel nostalgic when I get them in change at the post office vending machines. (...) And $2s rock too. They must have at (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I haven't been paying much attention to this topic, either here or in the news, so it's new to me. Works for me, though. We make a point of saving all our change and using it to pay for groceries (at a store that has one of the counting (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) At certain caving events I go to, the organizers, and most of the vendors stock up on $2 bills. The idea is that when you go out to a restaurant for dinner, or otherwise spend money in town, the townies see all these $2 bills and realize how (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you're saying 2's rock too?? Or are you saying they're a bit hollow? Seriously, I have heard of other groups that want people to know what their economic impact is doing the same thing. Seems a neat idea. (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if the machine actually works and doesn't require a lot of intervention from me it would be a good deal. If it requires a lot of TLC then it becomes a waste of my time. Dunno, I've spent hours rolling 40 or 50 dollars worth of coins (...) (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My bank doesn't accept unrolled coins. I'm switching bank soons anyway, at least for the majority of my banking. We already have a savings account at the UTK credit union. My checking acct at my current bank is free, but I have to do all my (...) (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It sure beats marking quarters. Steve (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You must be younger than you seem. Policy has varied widely on this burning issue, but it used to be that *most* banks would roll coins for account holders. Steve (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, I suppose that's an issue, but I've never been screwed so much that I'd notice. Also, it's the same machine they use for their own stuff, so I'd assume that it's pretty top notch engineering. (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hrmmmm.... Thanks, I think? I wonder how young I seem? :) (...) Well, my bank sucks. I've only had accounts at ... 3 banks in my life, though, so I have limited experience. Wells Fargo, Nations Bank, and now First American. Soon I will move (...) (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Mon, 24 May 1999 23:09:02 GMT, Mr L F Braun uttered the following profundities... Snipped for brevity...... Pound coins do make life easier! Except for posting money, one couldn't send off a pound note to a charity, one only had a fiver! They (...) (25 years ago, 31-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Mon, 17 May 1999 23:41:55 GMT, Terry K uttered the following profundities... (...) I like the detail in US paper currency. I dislike the new style. (Same with postage stamps. Older US postage stamps were beautiful. These '90's ones look like they (...) (25 years ago, 31-May-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sure you do. You just don't notice it any more... Sure, you can grow a habit of always checking the number on the bill before spending it. But what if you don't have your reading-glasses on? Recognising whether a bill is red, green, or blue is (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Generally agreed. (...) I can understand that. (...) Huh? Why is it illegal? -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:22:14 GMT, Terry K uttered the following profundities... (...) An assumption, based on the fact that most images of paper currency usually have something obscuring an important part of the note. Shall we do so, anyway? Front (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, you want to scan them and compare online? AFAIK, in the US, it is not illegal to make copies of currency as long as the copy is a certain minimum percentage larger or smaller. Not sure of the percentage. 25% +- does spring to mind, though. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's my understanding, also, that some percentage of the scan or copy needs to be obscured or obliterated. But that probably wouldn't get in the way of getting two scans, with different parts missing, and pasting them together digitally... (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, I know you can get $1 bills from the Treasury in pads--can you get $2 that way too? An old roomie of mine had no end of trouble from people refusing to believe that $1 on a pad could possibly be real. I get funny enough looks passing $2 (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <plug> Same here--I don't deal with banks regularly anymore, but it seems that most small banks around NJ don't provide those little services while Credit Unions do. That, and much friendlier rates, interest-bearing no-fee checking, a solvent (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I must be sick, I just took the time to search this out: (URL) interesting. The most interesting point is the how to define "after their final use" in section #3. And, come to think of it, how does one specify a size on a computer monitor? For (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:49:06 GMT, Terry K uttered the following profundities... (...) I'll read it later. I do know a phenomenal amount of US dollar notes pass through London, via some US city, each week. Replacement of old bills going to the US, and (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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After all of the discussion about currencies, I have scanned a few bank notes so people can compare. Here is the site: (URL) is the text from the page, should anyone wish to send me scans of their banknotes. After discussing currency on Lugnet, I (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) refused both last night and today. (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Must have been a server problem, works now... Nice. There is some kind of image problem though, the reverse of the UK 10 pound note is larger than the front. (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This page will load a LOT faster in most browsers if you use the height and width tags on the IMG tags. See the source of just about any of my pages for the syntax. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Once upon a time, (on Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:28:15 GMT, to be precise!), Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities.... (...) We had been discussing currencies. I think it was Mike who commented on other countries' pretty banknotes. (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Once upon a time, (on Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:38:54 GMT, to be precise!), Frank Filz uttered the following profundities.... (...) Nope, no typo! I linked to it directly from this post. You wouldn't be the 1st person to report refused connection, though. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Once upon a time, (on Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:15:04 GMT, to be precise!), Frank Filz uttered the following profundities.... (...) Whoops! Looks like I cut off a few millimetres of the right side. I intend to rescan them anyway, as they weren't the best (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Once upon a time, (on Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:28:15 GMT, to be precise!), Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities.... (...) Didn't see that part. I deleted the height and width tags for the first one (used Web Edit Pro), and just copy/pasted (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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