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Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves?
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Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:44:12 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim David wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bob Parker wrote:
   While not naming any specific sites, I would be interested in hearing the Community’s thoughts on whether you think it right or wrong for one AFOL site to talk about another AFOL site. For purposes of this discussion, we will assume that by talk I mean badmouth.

I’m not sure that the sites that prompted your ponderings are really AFOL sites. Not a a critism of them, merely a thought that the standards of maturity might not be what you would like to get from an AFOL site

Actually, I’ve found the behavior of some people on “adult” LEGO sites (like Lugnet) to be less mature than the norm on kid-oriented LEGO sites (like BZPower). There have been incidents and member actions on Lugnet that I wouldn’t tolerate on BZP.

The standards for maturity don’t always seem to apply to Lugnet.

While I can appreciate you point here, Kelly, I have to say that, based on various comments you’ve made on lugnet in the past, I wouldn’t like to frequent a site where your ‘standard of maturity’ are applied.

Please provide links to my previous applicable comments so I know what you’re referring to.

I now stand with egg on my face. I had you confused with Mark Pappenfuss. I did a quick scan before posting but wasn’t as thorough as I ought to have been. My most sincere apologies for not being more careful and thus casting unfair aspersions.

Confused with mfuss? Shoot me now! There’s no reason to continue breathing... (Actually, despite Mark’s acerbic style, he and I get along pretty well.)

  
   Also, let’s define “standard of maturity.” I’d call it “Play Well,” which is something anybody can do - if they so choose. Not everyone does so choose.

   This post is a pretty good example really. Do you consider it mature to make snide comments about other people’s behaviour?

Which snide comments are you referring to? I was making a general statement based on observed behavior on various LEGO enthusiast web sites, with a specific (factual) observation that about this particular site. Any perceived snideness was the result of reader assumptions rather than author intent.

Being factual doesn’t in any way change snideness. I was specifically referring to the additional sentence at the end after the main paragraph. Even taking off my mistaken view that you have said similar things in the past I still read it as a bit snide (ie. slyly disparaging). It may not be intended as such but its apparent tone and aloneness gives me that impression.

Not knowing which site(s) were the genesis of this discussion, I subconsciously substituted “Lugnet” and “BZPower” (just ‘cuz) without making it clear I was doing so. Dave E. pointed this out as well.

I actually feel quite strongly about the laissez-faire method of administration on Lugnet, and I do get disturbed by the occasional flamewar where there’s no method to apply any dampening effects (like closing a topic or suspending somebody). There is no “official” procedure on Lugnet to require “mature” behavior. To me, poor behavior here lessens the moral authority of the site and by association as the core AFOL site, diminishes the hobby and those who practice it. That’s an aside to this conversation, but perhaps explains where the initial comment came from.

   And once again sorry for my mistake.

No problem. Just remember - I’m the good-looking one.

Kelly



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**Snip** (...) **snip more** (...) See? This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. **grins** And if y'all don't knock it off, I'm gonna hold my breath 'till I turn bley! Play Well and Prosper, Matthew (18 years ago, 12-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) I now stand with egg on my face. I had you confused with Mark Pappenfuss. I did a quick scan before posting but wasn't as thorough as I ought to have been. My most sincere apologies for not being more careful and thus casting unfair (...) (18 years ago, 11-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  

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