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Re: I think I'm going to puke....
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Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:08:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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This has nothing to do with “allowing” anything. I’m not advocating banning
or allowing anything.
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Well, not necessarily you per se, but it’s one of those things that the Right is
generally against. Gay marriage being the big ticket item at the moment. Things
like that, restrictions on stem cell research, and even things like gambling &
prostitution. Certainly I’d expect that the Right would be more against such
things (and advocate laws against them) whereas the Left *generally* would be
more liberal when it came to that.
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These shifts are emanating from the Left (certainly not from the conservative
Right) and in the arena of ideas,
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Well, I wouldn’t be so quick to make that call-- I don’t think it’s really
deriving from the political arena, but more the societal changes going on. The
internet, TV, movies, etc all have a lot to do with that, I think. Freedom and
availability of information has allowed previously hidden, obscured, or
publically frowned-on information to be more exposed. It’s given a voice to far
more people, and widened the definition of what’s “accepted” because you see it
more often.
Suddenly people’s closetted lives are being exposed, and it’s seen as
commonplace. How often does the topic of “porn” come up in casual conversation
nowadays versus 30 years ago? How much do kids see now versus then? When did
someone being gay become something that you can mention freely in conversation?
How come you can say certain words on TV now that would NEVER have made it even
CLOSE to censors in the 50’s? Take it back 100 years, and we’re onto topics like
racial and sexual descrimination.
I don’t really see the Left to blame for such ideas. The difference as far as I
see is that the Left is merely more accepting to them. The Right tends to be
more static in terms of its standpoints (which is part of its strength, but also
part of its weakness). It’s all about “traditional” American, Christian,
fiercely patriotic values, which frowns on much of modern culture. The Left by
comparison doesn’t reject the new culture as much. But I certainly don’t think
it’s the Left that’s *causing* those changes.
DaveE
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| (...) It's all how you look at it. The Right is against the Left redefining marriage. (...) Mainly the Right is against government funding for such research. Same with abortion. But yes, there is a moral component to it as well. (...) Prostitution, (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) This has nothing to do with "allowing" anything. I'm not advocating banning or allowing anything. I'm talking about cultural shifts with which I strongly disagree. This is yet another example of those who would want to blur the lines between (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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