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Re: I think I'm going to puke....
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Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:34:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Mainly the Right is against government funding for such research. Same
with abortion. But yes, there is a moral component to it as well.
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This may be an unintentional misstatement of the facts. My impression is
that an all-out ban on stem-cell research would receive massive support from
the Right, but the Right realizes that it’s a game of inches. First, ban
government funding of stem-cell research. Second (hypothetically, but you
get the point), ban stem-cell research by entities not licensed by the
government. Third (again, hypothetically) ban stem-cell research outright.
The Right may claim that it is a moral issue, but in fact it is a case of
the Right trying to require that everyone be forced to share the Right’s
carefully calculated articulation of its moral values.
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The Right’s objection to stem cell research revolves around the use of
fetal stem cells. It is their fear that unborn fetuses will become stem
cell gardens for research. I know of no objections to the usage of other
types of stem cells such as the ones found in the imbilical cord. So, one
must specify which type of stem cell one is talking about WRT to this whole
debate.
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Sorry for the ambiguity--it wasn’t an attept to trap you.
I was referring to fetal stem cells, which scientific consensus identifies
as likely the most fruitful source of therapeutic treatments.
The silliness of the Right’s objection is immediately apparent, IMO. Dubya,
whom we may identify as an exemplary caricature of Right-wing silliness, decries
the creation of life solely to destroy life. But he absolutely must condemn
in vitro fertilization, too, because numerous embryos are created solely in the
hope that one might live; life is created and destroyed so that one life may be
produced. If fetal stem cell research is allowed to flourish, the termination
of one blastocyst may save hundreds of thousands of lives. How can this not be
seen as a worthy course?
Also, the whole claptrap about “Snowflake Adoptions” is patently offensive, when
Dubya has worked so hard to kill so many Iraqi children, not to mention the
countless post-birth American children he has neglected and abandoned with his
policies.
A clear examination of the Right’s rhetoric demonstrates that, regardless of the
morality of those who vote Republican, the actual leadership has no more
interest in the fate of blastocysts than is needed to ensure that the unthinking
flock will pull the Red lever on election day.
Dave!
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| (...) Or maybe (URL) not.> Well, how about that! And right in my own backyard. Heck, I don't have any let's-kill-as-many-e...s-possible agenda; I just want the science to proceed. This is very encouraging, though of course we'll need to see more (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) As you have noted elsewhere, this consensus most certainly doesn't exist and scientific progress can most likely procede without the use of fetal stem cells. (...) This is actually a good point. I know that numerous eggs are used purely for (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The Right's objection to stem cell research revolves around the use of fetal stem cells. It is their fear that unborn fetuses will become stem cell gardens for research. I know of no objections to the usage of other types of stem cells such as (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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