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Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:20:11 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Lee Meyer wrote:
   Hi Kevin,

your note is condescending and frankly, I have nothing to answer to you for.

It is condescrending, because you deserve such treatment. You are a thief. My first post did not outright say it so clearly, but after reading your various responses, you have proven it. You knowingly copy the designs of others for personal profit (assuming your cheap knock-off’s actually sell), only contacting people after they’ve complained.

   I credited Collin for his work. Not that its any of your business, but I did try to find contact info for Collin and couldn’t find it.

Try harder. It is inexcusable to sell someone else’s design without permission.

However, you made a step in the right direction by atleast mentioning Collin. It made it easier for people to find the model you copied.

   I also did contact Jason and told him I based my Delta Dart fighter on his ships (which vary in their designs as well). As for the Star Shark, I had

After he emailed you, and even then, your reply was dismissive.

   The Discus is similar but different in many ways, too.

Different in that you copied a really cool model, took out all the interesting bits, changed the color scheme to a poorly conceived one, then SOLD it.

   I find your general position of accusing me of “stealing” or building ships “that look like Lego ships” arrogant on your part. Everyone looks at other peoples’ designs and adopts certain elements and techniques they like into their own models. Whether they are internal or external, if they are external, you’re going to see them. It’s not up to me to talk to you and get your blessing to do so. I’ll go to the source, I don’t know why you think I have to get your okay to do so.

Did I ever once say that you need to ask me? No. So shut yer trap. I am a concerned citizen, that wants to do see justice served, and to stop you before you steal one of my own models.

Also, “adapting certain parts” is not what you did. You outright copied, and the sooner you admit it, the better. Then you sold them!

   I guess nobody else can build ships adapting design techniques they like from other people without getting your approval, huh Kevin? Or are you upset that I am also trying to sell the ships I make? I don’t know, maybe you will find fault with ALL forty some ships I offer. Maybe they look too much like someone elses.

Everyone, please submit all your designs to Kevin before posting - he may want to chastise you before you post because your ship is too much like someone elses.

No, you are wrong. If you want to copy someone’s model and put it on your bookcase, go right ahead. But when you start selling things, claiming them as your own, I will find beef with that.

Here is what I suggest you do:

• Immediately take all sets that are copies of other peoples models off your site.

• Email the creator of each, apologizing profusely, and offering compensation if infact you did sell any of them.

• At that point, ask permission to sell their design, giving proper credit to the original designer.

Once again, the problem arrived when you sell other’s designs. I cannot emphasize that enough.

I realize these are serious accusations I (and others) have laid upon you. But at this point I can think of no concievable way in which you could prove these accusations wrong. I plan to email the bricklink admins if you do not solve this problem.

I have a feeling you will not be welcomed on these forums any longer if you do not quickly right things.



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  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kevin Blocksidge wrote: SNIP (...) Hi Kevin, I think you are correct in terms of your suggestions, as I believe it really is not worth it to sell other people's designs that I have modified or based ships on. Clearly from (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  

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  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
(...) Hi Kevin, your note is condescending and frankly, I have nothing to answer to you for. I credited Collin for his work. Not that its any of your business, but I did try to find contact info for Collin and couldn't find it. I also did contact (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.space, FTX)  

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