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Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:09:16 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Lee Meyer wrote:
   I certainly wouldn’t expect anything less from you, Larry. I don’t think we’ve been on the same side of an issue more than once. You nicely overlook the “have you no shame” commment that really got my ire up. Judge jury and executioner all rolled up into one one that sentence.

The fact is, I have adopted design techniques and made ships that have much in common with other peoples’ creations. I have credited some, some after they contacted me asking if I based a design on one of their ships. I just don’t think people are sitting around here waiting for credits when someone else uses a technique they use. Why are we all not crediting the guy/gal who first began SNOT every time we build a ship with SNOT techniques? How about the guy who first used wheels as engines?

It isn’t your place or anyone else’s place to question me and prejudge me if I have credited another’s design. It is my call, just like it’s your call if you do. If I don’t think it’s a big enough thing, I don’t believe I must credit someone else. We all have to determine what ‘big enough’ is. Nobody here owns a certain technique and technically, nobody here is required to credit anyone else, although I do think it is a nice thing to do. That’s why I did on my recent ship, and why I should have initially on the Delta Dart fighter.

Your glib, sarcastic response about “Well how many ships have you copied, and I’ll estimate how many you need to credit” line really tells me what you’re all about. Thanks for being such a thoughtful person.

Lee

I have to agree with everyone else. There is a difference between using others’ techniques and copying. Changing one or two small things is still copying the original.

I backed off a LED Luke Skywalker idea I wanted to sell a few months ago because someone else (Rob) thought of it first. It was a great idea and I thought of it before looking at Rob’s website. His work only gave me a better idea of how to do it and I didn’t plan on copying his work exactly. There was only so much you could change and after a good deal of thought, I decided it just wasn’t right. So I have my own ideas and will develop and sell those.

In the end, you need to ask yourself how you would feel if someone modified one bit of your idea and sold it.



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  Re: Custom Space: Obsidian Stealth Strike Craft for sale - The Brickee Mart
 
I certainly wouldn't expect anything less from you, Larry. I don't think we've been on the same side of an issue more than once. You nicely overlook the "have you no shame" commment that really got my ire up. Judge jury and executioner all rolled up (...) (20 years ago, 14-Dec-04, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, FTX)  

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