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  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) The 9/11 guys weren't US citizens (I think one or two were). But hasn't the UK had trouble with terrorism by citizens? (not the Ireland troubles, but the 21st century kind). Tim (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) If most of them weren't US citizens then I agree with the latter part of this argument. With Terror tactics and WMDs (such as a Boeing 747) then a viable body of rebels doesn't have to be large. Were the hijackers US citizens by and large then (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Speaking of Demogoguery... (URL) wait, he's a Republican. I guess his speechifying can't be considered that. As an aside, I agree with everything Hagel stated and consider him a man of class. (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) In a literal meaning, war on a noun--eh, hardly humour there In the meaning that we both probaby agree on--a war against fanaticals who appear to have no issue with killing civilians of any (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Sorry, Tim--I missed your post, or I would have responded earlier. DaveE has already offered good thoughts on this point, but I'd go in a slightly different direction. In my view, a rebellion necessarily consists of a viably large body of (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) LOL I think they're a bit like a wedge of vintage cheddar: They seem solid, but the edges always crumble a bit, and someone is always going to be lactose intolerant and not want any part of it. Cheers Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) It's pretty sketchy. You could define "rebellion" as a group of citizens who take action against the government. But does that action necessarily require that it's an armed action, or a physically destructive one? What if they were hacking in (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) John, with due respect, you don't know that. Many of these detainees were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, or they were mistaken for someone else, or they were coerced into fighting against invading US forces. We have only the word (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Excellent question. I don't know. But I do know that if they are released, they will attack us again. (...) No, I think it was in response to a new category of enemy who isn't represented by a nation-state. They don't deserve a trial by jury. (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Do you think the war on "terrah" is a joke? Who knows upon what information the US government is acting upon. I don't, so I can't comment. (...) "Demogoguery"? (...) Let me count the ways: They aren't even a real country anyway. Their hockey (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) And if you leave the US justice system to sort things out regarding this 'war on terrah', they deport Canadians to Syria (URL) glad *some* senators are calling it what it is-- (URL) "We knew damn well if he went to Canada he wouldn't be (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) I have no idea. All I'm saying is that if you hold to a strictly literal interpretation of the Constitution (as Dave initially suggested), you can get absurd conclusions, as both Specter and Gonzales have illustrated. And so the game goes on. (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) But they are entitled to certain protections that, by design, are denied to this latest batch. For example, prisoners of war are to be released at the war's end, but Dubya has pretty clearly stated that the War on Terror will never be over. So (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Are you saying that you think Gonzales was joking? Or that he genuinely ought to "fight stupidity with even greater stupidity"? DaveE (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Enemy combatants have never had a right to trial. (...) This term wasn't invented or coined by President Bush, so don't blame him or Gonzo. (...) Is your rant against the classification of "enemy combatant" and its legal status? Or are you (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Agreed. By being literal. But I think he did so to counter Specter's obtuse literalism. JOHN (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Only because no other scenario was imagined. So it would be your opinion that, if a scenario of terrorist attacks like 9-11 were somehow proposed to the FF, they wouldn't include that form of violence in their "invasion or rebellion" (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) I guess the distinction I'm trying to make here is that if Gonzales's assertion is accurate, there's no definitions anywhere of what constitutes someone with the right to habeas corpus and someone who doesn't. In effect, it invalidates Article (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Of course not--RW radio mentions it daily, every time they blame Clinton for 9/11. (...) Okay, so two attacks in a decade constitute an invasion? Sorry, but "invasion" implies the insertion of a substantial military presence into the target (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Sure it is, if these individuals are stripped of all rights to trial. Bush is declaring "they're guilty because I say so, so we don't need a trial to hold them indefinitely." Sorry, but that's a pretty abominable statement for the leader of (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) "Single attack"? Do you forget (among many others) the first bombing at the WTC, Dave!? Maybe this debate needs to begin with the idea of whether or not we are at war. Are we? JOHN (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Well, not considering 9-11 an invasion would be a literal interpretation, no? (...) The Constitution directs that habeas corpus can be suspended in certain circumstances; it is not an "inalienable" right, unless you believe that individuals (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) A single attack can make a rebellion if it is by a citizen of the country. I can't remember if any of the Sept 11 bombers were US citizens but if so I would argue it indeed was a part of a rebellion. Tim (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) One problem there (among many) is that there has been no invasion and no rebellion. A single attack does not an invasion make, so there is literally no justification for suspension of habeas corpus. Dave! (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) I'm not up on this one apparently-- where did Specter take a literal interpretation where he ought not to have? In this case, it seems utterly plain. If the interpretation is that no right is expressly granted to anyone, but only that when it (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) I think Constitutions are like religious texts. "My" sides interpretation is always the only valid one ;-) Tim (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Well, you want your interpretation, and literal, too. Specter takes the Constitution literally when he cites "except in the case of invasion or rebellion", but when Gonzales takes the Constitution literally, you cry foul. JOHN (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) I wouldn't call incarcerating enemy combatants a disastrous policy. (...) I'd feel more comfortable discussing a specific example rather than addressing spurious, blanket attacks. (...) Every branch works the system to their advantage. It has (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Gonzo suffers from the delusion that the Prez is his client, when in fact he should be serving the interests of the citizenry. Instead of a champion of law, the Attorney General is acting as the primary enabler of and passionate advocate for (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LBS Survey for LUGNET
 
(...) For anyone who hasn't done the survey, the idea in question is a service for your mobile device. You sign up and say "notify me if my mobile device gets within X miles of a store which is selling set Y for Z dollars or less". Questions pertain (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LBS Survey for LUGNET
 
(...) i did the survey but it sounds to me like it's just another way for billon dollar companys to spam cell phone users. i for one wouldn't even concider using such a system. i'll stick to bricklink sales and google if i want to find a deal. (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) ...Nah, he wouldn't be able to. RoboCop's prime directive doesn't allow him to take action against an employee or board member of Halliburton or any of its subsidiaries, such as the U.S. Federal Government. (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) That's the way he sees it anyway--I think some sherrif should put it to the test and walk up to him with some handcuffs... Dave K (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Yeah, I don't get it. Has he seriously not corrected himself yet? It only seems fair that he be arrested and imprisoned for no reason. DaveE (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(URL) it's a lefty sight, but it has this excerpt from the Gonzales affair-- Specter: Now wait a minute, wait a minute. The Constitution says you can't take it away except in the case of invasion or rebellion. Doesn't that mean you have the right of (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3
 
(...) LiveJournal, SourceForge, and the New York Times all do it correctly, just to name a few: (URL) (18 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: New homepage for LUGNET part 3
 
(...) Actually, it's another of those words where common use has blurred what some would consider the correct usage. Many dictionaries now list it as a noun, eg: (URL) (18 years ago, 17-Dec-06, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Where Have All the Studs Gone?
 
(...) For smaller length Technic bricks I have found Star Wars sets to be pretty useful, with the added benefit that they often contain many other useful bricks as well. Even Harry Potter sets seem to use quite a few. ROSCO FUT: .dear-lego (18 years ago, 5-Dec-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)  
 
  Re: Where Have All the Studs Gone?
 
(...) Richie, I don't know why you would assign an arbitrary and incorrect timeline to events which you did not personally witness. Enter LEGO Retail, ask sales associate which current Technic sets include "classic studded Technic beams." Clerk (...) (18 years ago, 5-Dec-06, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Where Have All the Studs Gone?
 
(...) Allister, You are getting somewhat off-topic for both this newsgroup and this thread. Perhaps you would like to bring your fascinating insights over to a more relevant newsgroup where we can all ignore you in peace? FUT: (...) (18 years ago, 5-Dec-06, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LBS Survey for LUGNET
 
Dear all, a big thank you to all of you who have taken the survey. I do not want to SPAM this forum but I'd like to ask for some more participants for a validate result. Anyone who has a spare 5 minutes this weekend is invited to waste them on my (...) (18 years ago, 2-Dec-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: LBS Survey for LUGNET
 
Hallo an Alle hier nochmal der Text in Deutsch für alle Mitglieder von 1000steine.de. Leider habe ich im Moment dort keinen Account zum posten. Es wäre nett, wenn jemand einen Link oder ein Posting im 1000steine Forum für mich übernehmen könnte. Ich (...) (18 years ago, 30-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.de, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Ba-Ding! Good one:-) JOHN (18 years ago, 30-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Thanks for the warm welcome! (...) I don't know about NELUG attendance at the ILTCO show yet. I haven't been to a club meeting recently, so I don't know what people are planning. Sounds like a worthwhile trip, though, and I'll talk it up with (...) (18 years ago, 30-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Would be so unfortunate... :( Selçuk (18 years ago, 30-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Well, modesty is one of my best qualities! (though I'm not worth to carry the sandals of any one of the Daves!) BTW, welcome back! Are any of the NELUGers planning on attending the ILTCO Detroit show in July? JOHN (18 years ago, 30-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Your modesty is to be admired as well. You have clearly demonstrated keen discretion this evening, IMHO. (18 years ago, 30-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) I never said I had any; I was merely merrily quoting Shakespeare! JOHN (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Well then I admire and applaud your well-honed sense of discretion, sir! (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) The better part of valor is discretion:-) JOHN (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) If only I had found a way to be so diplomatic... :) (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Not a chance, no. (...) I'm glad Jlug exists, but it's not my cup of tea. Thanks for the offer, though:-) JOHN (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) (snipped several detailed rational items) Say, John, are you a member of (URL) Jlug> already by any chance? If not, then you should think about joining our lively little group if you wish to (a Lego Ambassador had to remind me to throw out an (...) (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(This has been sitting in my draft folder for weeks. Though I doubt you'd care to respond at this point, I thought I'd finish it up and post it anyway.) (...) Brendan, for a rational person such as yourself, you only accept explanations that can (...) (18 years ago, 29-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Now, at least one person grokked the reason behind my long time lazyness in creating MOCs..:-) Cheers, Selçuk (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Regarding this image of your LSF: (URL) That is way too neat...how do you keep it that way? It looks like a pain in the patootie to get to the bottom (NPI) bins! (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Bley?.. heh, nice touch. I think I can live with that. Since I haven't heard a real one from you, yet, I assume we still have a margin of safety to play with. And you obviously will not hear any from me, either. As you might already know, we (...) (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Hi Karl: I don't want to start a whole big thing here, but I think that "apparent" might be a better word to use than "perceived." The latter carries a connotation of "not really there," whereas the former admits that they do appear to be (...) (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) The commentary may be getting a bit less subtle, but it seems to me that it's been an integral part of the BT from the start. Fantastic work as always, Rev! I'll never look at that red kerchief-hat-thing the same way ever again! (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) Yes, I just saw the note on the Saul stories, Yaay, more BT! (...) Can't argue with that one. (...) Yeah, that's pretty much what I was noticing, there seemed to be a trend toward more commentary on percieved Christian inconsistencies. A bit (...) (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) You should join Jlug. It's like this all the time. (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) You can always tell the other guy is running out of bait when he starts using cuss-words. (...) Huh. Was somebody actually keeping score? I guess your irony meter really is broken. You've proved my original point better than I ever could have. (...) (18 years ago, 28-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) By recalling who is trolling who in the first place, your state of being not really sure why we are having this discussion sent my ironymeter out of range. I don't know about your motives, but I'm having this just for fun. I couldn't pass such (...) (18 years ago, 27-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Don't worry. Lar seems to have moved on, although I'm not sure if he's interanlised things. (18 years ago, 27-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) If it didn't bother you, then I am not really sure why we are having this discussion. Now I'm going to sound like O.J. Simpson, but if I wanted to be hurtful to the people on JLUG, I think I would've had to do a lot better than that. (...) (...) (18 years ago, 26-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) CTOPs are there for the benefit of the whole Community, not just Jlug, so it's good to see them getting wider use. All up, I'd say this thread has been pretty good for Jlug, CTOPs and for the Community as a whole [1]. Cheers, Allister [1] (...) (18 years ago, 25-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) If it is not the obvious, then the intention must be something myterious that we mere mortals cannot comprehend...hmmm...still don't know... (...) Oh, no, it's not necessary. My hide is rather thick (especially when compared to yours, (...) (18 years ago, 25-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) The use of CTOPs on JLUG is so prevalent that I found it impossible to evaluate the content without knowing what they meant. But the JLUG FAQ has a link to Richie Dulin's (URL) secret decoder ring> (which is hosted here on LUGNET, BTW) so it (...) (18 years ago, 25-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) For someone who dislikes JLUG so much, you certainly seem to be quite aware of our CTOPs. Why would you bother going through all the trouble of looking them up if you didn't like JLUG from the outset? And why do you use them so often if the (...) (18 years ago, 25-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Oh well. It was a nice troll nonetheless, and we all had fun. (18 years ago, 25-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) In retrospect its not a clique, because that implies exclusion, whereas you only have to show an interest in Lego to join AFAIK Tim (18 years ago, 25-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Agreed. Unfortunately, I wouldn't have any way of knowing whether I liked the site unless I had visited there. But I certainly plan to buy less of their product in the future. (...) I agree. And I certainly plan to buy less of their product in (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) I do feel remorse (and many other emotions) about having started this thread. But that doesn't mean that I don't stand 100% behind every word I have written. I leave it to you to decipher when I am being sincere vs. when I am being sarcastic. (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) I was meaning generally. I am a member of the JLUG clique (I think) Tim (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Tim, Do you mean this in a general sense or are you specifically referring to JLUG? A person has to consider why they want to join a clique. If it is to change the group and its dynamic, then they may be in for trouble. And yes, I agree there (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) But what about the cliques you want to belong to but aren't allowed to? Tim (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre wrote: <snip> (...) I vote Chris But I always vote for Chris... Anyway, if I don't like a website, you know what I do? I never visit it. And if I never visit it, then I don't care what happens there. It's like (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) I read again to better grok what you say here and come up with a question to ask. Do you really show, right at this moment, "least bit of remorse"? If not, could you please enlighten us which of the following is true: 1. Sentences like "It (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) -snip- (...) Well, Chris, please accept my apologies for misunderstanding you on both of these points. I will endeavour to grok your future posts better. (...) Yes, I've noticed a difference between the remarks that people post here with the (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Thank you very much for stating your position about credibility of JLUG members. I'm happy to inform you that the opinion of yourself about me (as being one of the active members of JLUG) is highly appreciated and from now on, it will be taken (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) ... (...) ... (...) So tell us Chris, and be honest - where did the bad Janey touch you? (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Although you've left me with quite a bit of snipping to do anyway. (...) And if this were JLUGNET, then I might be compelled to agree. From my perspective, this particular discussion is entirely relevant here on LUGNET, since it is based on my (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) I know exactly what you mean. I'm feeling a little bit of the same thing right now. (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) It used to be, but we gave up the hobby when they changed the colour of the fish to bley. (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Gee, when I see how some of the folks on JLUG seem to enjoy troll-baiting people who you absolutely know will overreact, I would expect that shooting fish in a barrel is exactly the sport you savor. (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) I did not complain about LUGNET. I simply commented that participation here is down, and that I hope this forum will return to some semblance of its former self. (Please note that the subject line of (URL) my post on that topic> was phrased as (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Chris, Please in future be careful linking to JLUG as some of the slogans are of an adult nature and this is supposed to be a family friendly site. Trust me when I say I know what I am talking about. I have probably posted the most horrible, (...) (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Nah. Too much like shooting fish in a barrel for my taste. Cheers Richie Dulin CSF Non-grokker. (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Complaining about Classic Space Forums gets my vote, but I'm open to reading complaints about Legofan if that takes your fancy. Allister (18 years ago, 24-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) So Chris, having complained about LUGNET, and now moved on to complain about JLUG (my two favourite forums, incidentally), can I ask you what site you plan to complain about next? Wikipedia? Cheers Richie Dulin JLUG Community Overlooker (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Wow, "bandogs"... great word! Oh how I wish it was true... the power I could wield if it was. Looks like Rene just came up with a new slogan... JLUG - Currently Recruiting More Bandogs (This is humour. Now while I don't expect it to be funny (...) (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Sorry, it's not a "real" word in formal English. The root word "grok" comes from Robert Heinlein's book Stranger in a Strange Land. It basically means "to understand completely." It seems the folks on JLUG have adopted the term as one of their (...) (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Hi Chris, I fear now we come to _my_ intelligence: What does "un-grokked" mean? My dictionary says: "Go away, nitwit, such a word doesn't exist"... Leg Godt! Rene (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't possible, just surprising. (...) There's a frightening thought! I suppose some things are best left un-grokked. (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Well, chacun à son goût. At least Janey and her bandogs decided to do mischief on their own platform and not here on LUGNET ;-) (...) Obviously they find it entertaining AND are able to operate a computer. To what extend that grants them (...) (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) It is certainly coarse, but I usually don't apply the label "humor" unless something is actually funny. I am surprised that anyone intelligent enough to operate a computer would find what goes on over there even remotely entertaining. It's not (...) (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Keen Observers of Community...
 
(...) Hi Chris, consider it as coarse humour. While browsing JLUG, set aside seriousness ;-) Leg Godt! Rene (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Keen Observers of Community...
 
...might notice that there are a lot of (URL) spiteful people> in this hobby these days. Funny how a group that prides itself on "internalizing and moving on" seems to get so caught up in stalking certain people. I guess I just made the list. (18 years ago, 23-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) You have now many times asserted that there can be no rational explanations for the origin of the universe, but mere repeated assertion has done nothing to convince me (or others who have chimed in) you're right about this. Even if we suppose (...) (18 years ago, 14-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Freud and Religion
 
This is a paper I wrote for a class I'm taking right now that explores the philosophical implications of the relationship between science and religion. Awesome class, taught, in part, by famous philosopher Michael Ruse. Anyways, I thought my essay (...) (18 years ago, 14-Nov-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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