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Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:31:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Hmmmm, founding fathers being exclusionary? The literal text really does
say what Gonzales says it does.
But then again, the literal text of the 2nd really does say that the guns
are for the ‘well oiled militia’
Interpretations be damned, I say. Let’s go for the literal text!!!
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Well, you want your interpretation, and literal, too. Specter takes the
Constitution literally when he cites “except in the case of invasion or
rebellion”, but when Gonzales takes the Constitution literally, you cry
foul.
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One problem there (among many) is that there has been no invasion and no
rebellion. A single attack does not an invasion make, so there is literally
no justification for suspension of habeas corpus.
Dave!
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A single attack can make a rebellion if it is by a citizen of the country. I
can’t remember if any of the Sept 11 bombers were US citizens but if so I would
argue it indeed was a part of a rebellion.
Tim
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) It's pretty sketchy. You could define "rebellion" as a group of citizens who take action against the government. But does that action necessarily require that it's an armed action, or a physically destructive one? What if they were hacking in (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
| | | Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
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| (...) Sorry, Tim--I missed your post, or I would have responded earlier. DaveE has already offered good thoughts on this point, but I'd go in a slightly different direction. In my view, a rebellion necessarily consists of a viably large body of (...) (17 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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