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Subject:	Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:24:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

Hmmmm, founding fathers being exclusionary? The literal text really does say what Gonzales says it does.

But then again, the literal text of the 2nd really does say that the guns are for the ‘well oiled militia’

Interpretations be damned, I say. Let’s go for the literal text!!!

Well, you want your interpretation, and literal, too. Specter takes the Constitution literally when he cites “except in the case of invasion or rebellion”, but when Gonzales takes the Constitution literally, you cry foul.

One problem there (among many) is that there has been no invasion and no rebellion. A single attack does not an invasion make, so there is literally no justification for suspension of habeas corpus.

Dave!

Message has 2 Replies:

		Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
(...) A single attack can make a rebellion if it is by a citizen of the country. I can't remember if any of the Sept 11 bombers were US citizens but if so I would argue it indeed was a part of a rebellion. Tim (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

		Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
(...) "Single attack"? Do you forget (among many others) the first bombing at the WTC, Dave!? Maybe this debate needs to begin with the idea of whether or not we are at war. Are we? JOHN (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
(...) Well, you want your interpretation, and literal, too. Specter takes the Constitution literally when he cites "except in the case of invasion or rebellion", but when Gonzales takes the Constitution literally, you cry foul. JOHN (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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