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Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
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Date: 
Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:54:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:

   One problem there (among many) is that there has been no invasion and no rebellion. A single attack does not an invasion make, so there is literally no justification for suspension of habeas corpus.

“Single attack”? Do you forget (among many others) the first bombing at the WTC, Dave!?

Of course not--RW radio mentions it daily, every time they blame Clinton for 9/11.

   Maybe this debate needs to begin with the idea of whether or not we are at war. Are we?

Okay, so two attacks in a decade constitute an invasion?

Sorry, but “invasion” implies the insertion of a substantial military presence into the target country for a protracted period without that country’s explicit invitation.


Dave!



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  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) Only because no other scenario was imagined. So it would be your opinion that, if a scenario of terrorist attacks like 9-11 were somehow proposed to the FF, they wouldn't include that form of violence in their "invasion or rebellion" (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Where's Larry and Hoppy when you need 'em???
 
(...) "Single attack"? Do you forget (among many others) the first bombing at the WTC, Dave!? Maybe this debate needs to begin with the idea of whether or not we are at war. Are we? JOHN (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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