|
In lugnet.loc.au, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
>
> That's the root of my rant about Americanism--it's actually a hybrid culture
> that's gravitated towards the US because of economic power and demographic
> strength. The insidious part of Americanism is actually its functioning--its
> corporatist nature. 'Tis not the Americanisation to me, 'tis the Disneyfication
> that's new. Americanisation has been around since the 1890s, after all--the idea
> that the new and odd is American, but the traditional and wholesome is entirely
> home-grown. The equations both that American=New/Alien and
> American=Degenerate/Inferior is a venerable bugaboo.
Indeed each 'culture' has an obsession with 'home-grown=100% pure'
> And, of course, calling it "Americanization" makes it an easy target for local
> conservative nationalists (witness France). It's much harder to admit one's own
> people's complicity in its creation and advancement.
Some call it Coca cola colonisation.
> By the way, for the .au folks, have you heard any of these awful "Outback
> Steakhouse" commercials they have up here in the eastern US? The supposed
> "essence" of Australia--Paul Hogan, wallabies, and Men at Work, mostly--has been
> canned and parleyed into a good-sized STOW-restaurant (STOW=Stuff* Tacked On
> Walls) empire up here. It's depressing, and IIRC it was started by an Australian
> emigre catering to US myths about Australia. Perhaps it's indicative that there
> aren't any in Australia, but there's one in Guam and a bunch on the Pacific
> Rim--and they have a partnership with NASCAR, a US stock-car racing syndicate
> usually associated with country bumpkins.
One of the guys at work visited one of these while on holiday, and was annoyed
with the depictions and so-called Australian cuisine.
But even with authentic ethnic cuisines in ethnic restaurants here in Aus they
almost end up becoming parodies of their own culture,in a bid to appeal.
A lot of Westerners love the new and spicy and interesting and are willing to
try different things but they are the minority in our own culture, the large
proportion though pick the sweetened/homogenised watered-down version.
A lot of the time we let ourselves down (speaking collectively).
pete.w
|
|
Message is in Reply To:
72 Messages in This Thread: ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Mark Harrison (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Peter White (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Mark Harrison (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Santosh Bhat (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Some model team ideas -Jonathan Wilson (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Doug Finney (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Paul Sinasohn (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Jonathan Wilson (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Fredrik Glöckner (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Jonathan Wilson (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Gianluca Morelli (5-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Jonathan Reynolds (5-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Gianluca Morelli (8-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Jonathan Reynolds (9-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Some model team ideas -Jonathan Wilson (5-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.dear-lego)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Todd Lehman (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Richard Franks (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Peter Callaway (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Santosh Bhat (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -David Low (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Bruce Schlickbernd (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Lindsay Frederick Braun (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Bruce Schlickbernd (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana -Peter White (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana -Lindsay Frederick Braun (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Peter Callaway (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Bruce Schlickbernd (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Lindsay Frederick Braun (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Torsten Fresemann (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Peter White (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Shiri Dori (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Lindsay Frederick Braun (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Shiri Dori (5-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Susan Hoover (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Peter White (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Richard Franks (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Peter White (5-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Jonathan Wilson (5-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![You are here](/news/here.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Shiri Dori (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Peter White (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Shiri Dori (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.market.theory)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Peter White (3-May-00 to lugnet.market.theory)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Scott Arthur (3-May-00 to lugnet.market.theory)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Matthew Wilkins (3-May-00 to lugnet.market.theory)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -David Low (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -David Low (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Paul Baulch (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Lindsay Frederick Braun (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Bram Lambrecht (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Lindsay Frederick Braun (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Shiri Dori (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Lindsay Frederick Braun (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Susan Hoover (4-May-00 to lugnet.off-topic.fun)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Shiri Dori (6-May-00 to lugnet.off-topic.fun)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Bram Lambrecht (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.people)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Gary R. Istok (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Paul Baulch (6-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from?) -Bram Lambrecht (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Warning: May contain offensive language! Was Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET -Maggie Cambron (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Warning: May contain offensive language! Was Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET -Selçuk Göre (4-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Computers and blue air (was Where did you lot spring from?) -Richard Parsons (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/28.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Paul Baulch (3-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Paul Baulch (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Mark Harrison (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Peter White (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Mark Harrison (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Paul Baulch (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/246.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Peter White (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/46.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -James Howse (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/268.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Mark Harrison (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/x.gif) ![](/news/68.gif) ![Re: Where did you lot spring from? -Jonathan Wilson (2-May-00 to lugnet.loc.au)](/news/x.gif)
- Entire Thread on One Page:
- Nested:
All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:
All | Brief | Compact
|
|
|
|