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| | | Mr. Lehman, Would it be possible to start a chat system on LUGNet? I originally thought mine would be successful (No idea why), but after 30 hours, it has 1 member and only 17 hits. So, this led me to this post about a chat system on LUGNet. I think (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | (...) Speaking only for myself, I would be no more likely to go to a chat on LUGnet than elsewhere. IRC, etc are not my style. IF I have very good reason, I will go to a MUSH to talk. But mostly, I'm simply not on-line long enough to make sitting (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Me neither... But there are quite a few people who enjoy chat, I gather. I'd been wondering the same thing as Greg since the first day we started the testing in August -- when we noticed how "instantly" newly posted articles appeared. It's not (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh! You thought he was asking for a lugnet.chat group... I thought he was asking for an IRC type real-time set up here. How would this group be different from other newsgroups? HOW fast would articles expire? I have to manually ask for new (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | (...) With my config, and I have very little idea of what it is as I do this at work, it's much faster Usenet. That's one of the things I really like about lugnet. (...) While I enjoy the fast posting, I probably wouldn't use a chat room as I can't (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | (...) Greg, While I do think that a chat system on Lugnet would be much more successful than the other random attempts at starting one elsewhere, even the semi-regular one on AOL I have participated in, I doubt it will ever be as popular as some (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) On the other hand, the mere existence of a chat room may attract people who aren't looking for newsgroup-style discussion. I've seen the request for a chat room several times on the official Mindstorms site, for example. I personally won't use (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Well, there again, if it happens, I personally would prefer that it used the same protocol as all the other IRC networks - efnet, undernet, whatever. Because I'd be 10 times more likely to fire up another screen and logon using a unix IRC (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | (...) Yes exactly. (...) Yes exactly. :) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Richard Franks
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| | | | | | (...) What about using a telnet socket-based talker? Telnetting to lugnet.com:4000 or whatever is simpler for most people than finding and setting up an irc cliet. I tend to find that telnet chat rooms are more personal and friendly than irc - (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | (...) You can emote on IRC too! And I doubt Todd really wants to write a MUSH! (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Richard Franks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Maybe I just haven't had good experiences of IRC, which is why I feel talkers are friendlier :) (...) True :) What I had in mind though was something like NUTS ((URL) or ew-too. These usually compile out of the archive and don't require much (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:47:09 GMT, Richard Franks <richard@__no_spam_p...pider.com> wrote: What about using a telnet socket-based talker? Telnetting to (...) This is what I meant about MUSHes. IF I go somewhere to talk, it's going to be a MUSH 98 (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | (...) Never heard of these. What are they? And what is the draw for them over standard IRC? (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | | | (...) A MUSH is a game that you telnet to. Usually, they are centered around a specific theme (most of those I played were Pern, though I started on a Star Trek theme one) There is more than one background code base that people use to create these (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | (...) You know the old text-adventure games? It's like that, except many people are connected at once and you can all talk to each other. The MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) variety usually involves some pseudo-D&D personal statistics and a hack&slash (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Hrmmm. Interesting. I guess, in a sense, you could say that our private IRC network ends up having all of the chat benefits you mention without the game aspect. I know what you mean about not being too impressed by just general IRC folks. I (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Richard Franks
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| | | | | | | (...) The game aspect is entirely optional, and is not needed or relevant for a Lego chat. I would suggest that a talker would be sufficent (no creatures or objects) as this would also be lighter on system resources. I guess private IRC is more (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Although it'd be fun to have a lego-based MOO (MUD/MUSH Object Oriented, or something like that) where you could build your own virtual lego houses.... (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Richard Franks
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Well yeah :) You could have a Lego-People running about and everyone beats up poor Timmy. But if LUGNET were to host it then a talker might be less work. Is a MUSH more self-regulating where people are allowed to create a certain #objects and (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | | | | | If there arises a working, populated Lego chat, please tell me. I don't have the time to follow this thread, but yet I don't want to miss the chatting. /Tore (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Alex Wetmore
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| | | | | | | | Richard Franks wrote in message <361CCF8D.873@__no_s...er.com>... (...) This is also a drawback (and I can say this with experience, after developing unix bbs software which was mostly used as a talker in its heyday (1994 or so). to see it telnet to (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Richard Franks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Urgh! The reason that site has lag is because each individual character is sent, processed and returned - that is a very inefficient mechanism - say typing one line would generate at least 160 packets going across the network! The way most (...) (26 years ago, 8-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Alex Wetmore
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| | | | | | | | Richard Franks <richard@__no_spam_p...pider.com> wrote in message 361D3CC9.3F87@__no_s...der.com... (...) heyday (...) Talkers of the type which you are talking about are very hard to use unless you use a special telnet client such as tinyfugue. (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | (...) That's not true. Linemode is a standard telnet option and should be supported by any good telnet client. See RFC #1184. A lot of places don't use this so that you don't have to press enter after every command. Which is generally a poor (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Alex Wetmore
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| | | | | | | | | | Matthew Miller <mattdm@mattdm.org> wrote in message slrn71t391.8c1.mattd....bu.edu... (...) unless (...) Yes, I know this. But using standard telnet with a talk system in linemode means that other peoples text will interrupt your typing. I (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not necessarily. I played on SouCon MUSH and PernMUSH for MONTHS using telnet only. (It was at least a year before I had access to tf) Sure, now that I have tf I would be hard-pressed to go back to plain telnet. But it CAN be done. ANd it is (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I dunno. Many (most?) ISPs these days don't even give out shell accounts, let alone being cool enough to install useful programs.... (...) :) Yes, of course Unix has it by default. The telnet client that comes with Win95 is utter crap -- (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) In Your Opinion IMO, WIn95's telnet does EVERYTHING I need it to. It is better than most, in fact. It has copy+paste capability, and logging. :) I don't know what more is needed. (I've never sent anything over telnet that needs encryption. If (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Well. It's not a baseless opinion. It has very limited terminal emulation capability, has trouble understanding that a standard terminal screen size is 80x25, doesn't let you create an address book.... Not to mention simple aesthetic issues (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes I don't encrypt my password when I telnet in from other sites either. Sarah (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) For address book, do you mean a list of servers? Win95 telnet compiles this automatically as you visit servers. You can change the colors by going to Terminal | Preferences. Background Color has its own button, foreground color is changed in (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Uh... Hyperterminal replaces Terminal in Win 3.x, NOT telnet.exe And yes, Hyperterminal works MUCH better than Terminal. I had to buy ProComm Plus in Win 3.X In Win95, I just used Hyperterminal until I finally went SLIP/PPP (forget which I (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | [Followup set to lugnet.off-topic.debate] (...) An address book is better than that. Win95 just remembers where you've been last. A real address book will let you specify which hosts to save, and lets you do things like specify different options (...) (26 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Alex Wetmore
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| | | | | | | | Perhaps a Princess.... <sarah@eskimo.com> wrote in message 36208bba.79678367@20....63.236... (...) Many ISPs these days don't have shell accounts. Many aren't even based on Unix. The largest ISPs in the country (AOL, Worldnet, MSN, Compuserve, etc) (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Sarah Heacock
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| | | | | | | | (...) *shrug* The argument is probably moot. Likely, I would not use an IRC server. There is not much ttle more probability that I would use a talker either. I simply don't have the time for either. News provides me plenty of reason to talk as is :) (...) (26 years ago, 9-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) My head is starting to spin with all this info... Could someone who's experienced with all or most of these be really nice and post a summary (starting a new thread) where things are listed in an advantages/disadvantes format? News vs. IRC vs. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | (...) I started to do this, but really, it can all be condensed to this, IMHO. Any of the more advanced systems will consume more of your time than this is worth -- I'd rather you concentrate your effort on other parts of LUGnet. If there's a (...) (26 years ago, 10-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's a good summary, thanks... --Todd (26 years ago, 10-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Ditto. All this talk about "talkers" vs "IRC clients" is kinda silly to me. I think there is no denying that IRC is more popular and more common. I don't know everything about the net, but I've played on my share of MUD's (always found them (...) (26 years ago, 10-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) But I think it's good to have a coherent summary on record somewhere for future reference. Plus, having a coherent summary "in the back of the brain" is always good for long-term synergy of ideas. That's the jist of asking... --Todd (26 years ago, 11-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: LUGNet Chat —Richard Dee
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| | | | If you wanted real time chat, you could join ICQ. There are a fair few Lego people there, and frequently have chats. go to www.mirablis.com and download the software and set it up. Once you have it, post your ident here, and I am sure people will (...) (26 years ago, 7-Oct-98, to lugnet.admin.general)
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