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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:50:19 GMT, "Jude Beaudin"
<shiningblade@home.com> wrote:
> http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
>
> I left you a little teaser for now.
>
> Jude
The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else. Oh which
reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
looking at it in it's current state.
-Matthew
-http://my.ispchannel.com/~mmoulton/lego/index.html
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Jude Beaudin wrote in message ...
> >
> > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> > personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else.
>
> <snip>
>
> Ouch!!!
Don't worry, I'm sure he regrets typing that now. Most of us have our
opinions refined a bit before we begin a reply, but then some people sort
of, well, "shoot their mouth off" ;-)
>
> That is far from what the page is gonna look like. I just wanted to get a • buzz
> going. I did not want to invest much time in the layout of a page with a • simple
> preview picture (the little teaser).
I'll try to be a bit more constructive... your minfig head is a cool idea,
but I think that for us to become interested we're gonna need a _teensy_ bit
more to go on ;-)
Cheers,
Paul
LUGNET member 164
http://www.geocities.com/doctorshnub/
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:50:19 GMT, "Jude Beaudin"
> <shiningblade@home.com> wrote:
>
> > http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
> >
> > I left you a little teaser for now.
> >
> > Jude
>
> The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else.
<snip>
Ouch!!!
That is far from what the page is gonna look like. I just wanted to get a buzz
going. I did not want to invest much time in the layout of a page with a simple
preview picture (the little teaser).
BTW, are you afraid of yellow or something? :-)
Jude
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> The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> mind once arriving at your webpage.
The words "not cool" and "very little person" come directly to mind.
> Oh which
> reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> site.
Plugging your site after slamming someone else's is not really the way to go.
If you wanted to tell people about your update you should post a message of
your own and not ride the coat tails of someone's site that is in your own
words "going to suck".
Jude,
The site looks promising. I always like checking out L draw stuff seeing as
how I don't do any myself. I love the cyclops guy!!!
Bryce McGlone
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In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes:
> http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
Cool guy! I always used to play around with minifig heads and bricks as a kid -
funny how growing up ruins your creativity. Heh. Glad to see you haven't lost
it!
(Errr, well, other than the fact you're doing something spacey, which shows
you've lost.... a few screws, maybe? <grin, duck and run>)
-Shiri
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
>
> The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> mind once arriving at your webpage.
How rude.
> Keep in mind that's just my
> personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else.
You're correct about that.
> Oh which
> reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of • my
> site. Come and see it if you want.
Wow, a whole page of ranting about pretty much everyone. You insulted
the memory of James Jessiman quite nicely as well. You then top it all off
with a big self-congratulatory rant about your own spacecraft design.
Give your ego a rest, whydont'cha.
> I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> looking at it in it's current state.
Congratulations, you've done a very nice job of alienating yourself from
pretty much everyone here. I think you've also done a nice job of making
sure no one ever visits your site again.
I don't understand where all this hostility is coming from, but you have a
lot of growing up to do.
You should stay in your room until you learn to play nice with the other
kiddies.
~Mark
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"Matthew" <moulton@hscis.net> wrote in message
news:392224f8.7052548@news.lugnet.com...
> The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else. Oh which
> reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> looking at it in it's current state.
>
> -Matthew
> -http://my.ispchannel.com/~mmoulton/lego/index.html
Well, I was going to let the replies of the others suffice, until I actually
visited your page. The image you have about James Jessiman is very
inappropriate and insulting to the VAST MAJORITY of this
community--especially to people who have devoted a good portion of their
work to his memory and to what he created. I am one of the people who has
donated a TREMENDOUS amout of time and energy to that very work. You have
absolutely no business making such a statement to this community, especially
when you can't tell this community's right hand from its left.
As Mark said, you've done a good job of alienating yourself from everyone
here, and you have a ton of growing up to do. Learn some respect for
others - living or dead, and also kill your ego. Those comments and
attitudes DO NOT belong here.
While you're at it...read up on how big of an influence James had on this
community - you might be sorry you insulted him, provided you do grow up.
--
Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com
http://www.ldraw.org - Centralized LDraw Resources
http://www.zacktron.com - Zacktron Alliance
ICQ: 23951114 - AIM: TimCourtne
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In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes:
> http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
>
> I left you a little teaser for now.
I'm not a big fan of teaser sites but I needed to comment on this one for
fairly obvious reasons. I think the rendered fig is cute and certainly whetted
my appetite for whatever it is you're up to. Do let us know when you're ready,
please.
PS, my advice to Brad J. applies here too... Ignore the rude, ignore the
clueless, and you'll have a much better day. If that's cheerleading, so be it.
++Lar
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In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes:
> http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
>
> I left you a little teaser for now.
>
> Jude
I like it! It's definately different and different is superb. I used to take
a 2x1 technic beam and stick it sideways on a minifig body. It made a neat
droid.
Can't wait to see more!
Chris <><
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:22:02 GMT, "Jude Beaudin"
<shiningblade@home.com> wrote:
> > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> > personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else.
> <snip>
> Ouch!!!
>
> That is far from what the page is gonna look like. I just wanted to get a buzz
> going. I did not want to invest much time in the layout of a page with a simple
> preview picture (the little teaser).
What bothered me about it was that you touted it as if it was
something really incredible and I thought it was. Until I arrived,
only to find a render of a minifig character with a headlight instead
of a head. I mean if that was such an impressive thing to do I might
have been a little more intrigued, however I can't think of anyone
whose ever played with Legos who hasn't at some point tried sticking
funny things on minifig characters. If I was 6 I may have found it to
be somewhat interesting however at this age it denotes nothing such as
skill or artistry when it comes to building Lego models.
> BTW, are you afraid of yellow or something? :-)
>
> Jude
There's nothing wrong with yellow at all...however the color denotes
happiness which makes the old Blacktron look like the happy, evil
people or something. And people wonder why Lego changed Blacktrons
colors...yeesh.
-Matthew
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:24:38 GMT, "Bryce McGlone" <bmcglone@ditim.com>
wrote:
> > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > mind once arriving at your webpage.
> The words "not cool" and "very little person" come directly to mind.
Simplicity of character is the natural result of profound thought.
> > Oh which
> > reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> > site.
> Plugging your site after slamming someone else's is not really the way to go.
I'm sorry you interpreted it that way, it wasn't my intention to
"plug" my site.
> If you wanted to tell people about your update you should post a message of
> your own and not ride the coat tails of someone's site that is in your own
> words "going to suck".
My site has got nothing to do with it, I wasn't comparing the sites, I
pointed out that I thought the site was poor given the promises, then
I directed people to my web page if they wanted more information on
just why I thought so.
> Jude,
> The site looks promising. I always like checking out L draw stuff seeing as
> how I don't do any myself. I love the cyclops guy!!!
> Bryce McGlone
Well break out the Pampers and start the coddling, looks like somebody
gets to play victim. Do the world a favor and lose the triangulation
pattern of behavior.
-Matthew
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:20:43 GMT, "Mark Sandlin" <sandlin@nwlink.com>
wrote:
> > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > mind once arriving at your webpage.
> How rude.
Yes, I imagine many people saw it that way.
> > Keep in mind that's just my
> > personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else.
> You're correct about that.
Actually as it turns out there are a few people who e-mailed me after
viewing the site. Some of them agreed with me on certain aspects, a
few others completely agreed with me. Funny thing that.
> > Oh which
> > reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> > site. Come and see it if you want.
> Wow, a whole page of ranting about pretty much everyone. You insulted
> the memory of James Jessiman quite nicely as well.
Sorry I tarnished anyone's tin God. Why don't you give it a rest
though, let him REST for God sakes.
> You then top it all off
> with a big self-congratulatory rant about your own spacecraft design.
Not at all. The only design which I consider to be flawless is the
Black Hawk. And only because I've spent roughly 4 years reworking and
redesigning it. My philosophy is that if you didn't spend at least 3
to 5 years on one Lego model you don't understand the perfection that
I expect from someone who tries to say they have something really
good.
> Give your ego a rest, whydont'cha.
This has nothing to do with my ego.
> > I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> > James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> > looking at it in it's current state.
> Congratulations, you've done a very nice job of alienating yourself from
> pretty much everyone here. I think you've also done a nice job of making
> sure no one ever visits your site again.
On the contrary my site has gained much publicity and traffic, an
unforeseen side effect. As for alienating myself, well, I can't say I
much care. If your friends aren't willing to accept and respect your
feelings and opinions then they aren't really your friends. I have no
fear of expressing the way I feel.
> I don't understand where all this hostility is coming from, but you have a
> lot of growing up to do.
The irony of the situation makes what you said absolutely absurd.
-Matthew
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> From: moulton@hscis.net (Matthew)
>
> > I don't understand where all this hostility is coming from, but you have a
> > lot of growing up to do.
>
> The irony of the situation makes what you said absolutely absurd.
Really, why is that?
Most people consider behaving in a civil manner the mature thing to do.
Posting messages saying "your site sucks" doesn't fall into the category of
"civil" or "mature."
~Mark
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Mark's Lego Creations
http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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Ignoring for a second your rudeness to Jude,
In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
[..]
> Oh which
> reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> looking at it in it's current state.
I have never seen anything quite as rude as this. I'm sorry, Matthew, but this
is just too much in my opinion. Even ignoring everything else - all your
little personal snipes at people's sites, which are already way outta line - I
simply cannot believe how you can be so disrespectful towards James Jessiman.
No, he's not a god - no one said he was. Yes, he contributed a lot to the lego
community. Yes, we all (most of us, at least) appreciate what he did. Those
who knew him personally, or at least better than others, or felt that he
helped them personally, put up something to remember him by. A memorial.
Your comments are not only insulting to many people personally in the
community, but also directly disrespectful to James' memory. It's your right
to flame people's sites, if you don't care about people's feelings. I can't
say it's something that'll make you friends, or supporters, but heck, it's
your choice. But do us all a favor and don't insult his memory. It's the least
you can do.
Thanks.
-Shiri
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> Sorry I tarnished anyone's tin God. Why don't you give it a rest
> though, let him REST for God sakes.
I can't believe you're actually saying this. Haven't you noticed YOU are the
one who's insulting him?
> On the contrary my site has gained much publicity and traffic, an
> unforeseen side effect.
Wow. If this is the kind of publicity you wanted, well buddy, let me assure
you, you've got it. Personally though, I'm definitely not going to bother with
your models after I've heard your attitude.
> As for alienating myself, well, I can't say I
> much care.
Enjoy yourself.
> If your friends aren't willing to accept and respect your
> feelings and opinions then they aren't really your friends.
Yeah. Also, if you consider someone your friend, you'd try to give them your
opinions in a way that wouldn't insult them. Have you ever heard of
constructive criticism? Or, for that matter, of tact?
And you won't *make* yourself many friends by giving them your opinions in the
bluntest way possible.
> I have no fear of expressing the way I feel.
Obviously not.
> > I don't understand where all this hostility is coming from, but you have a
> > lot of growing up to do.
>
> The irony of the situation makes what you said absolutely absurd.
Really? I don't see it. All I see is that you need to learn a little bit of
manners.
-Shiri
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> > > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > > mind once arriving at your webpage.
>
> > The words "not cool" and "very little person" come directly to mind.
>
> Simplicity of character is the natural result of profound thought.
You confuse profound thought with rudness.
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> There's nothing wrong with yellow at all...however the color denotes
> happiness which makes the old Blacktron look like the happy, evil
> people or something. And people wonder why Lego changed Blacktrons
> colors...yeesh.
What on earth *are* you talking about? There is no Blacktron anywhere on the
site, new or old. What bugs me more than pessimists are pessimists that don't
know what they're talking about.
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:59:25 GMT, "Greg Majewski"
<citrusx__@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > There's nothing wrong with yellow at all...however the color denotes
> > happiness which makes the old Blacktron look like the happy, evil
> > people or something. And people wonder why Lego changed Blacktrons
> > colors...yeesh.
> What on earth *are* you talking about? There is no Blacktron anywhere on the
> site, new or old. What bugs me more than pessimists are pessimists that don't
> know what they're talking about.
*shakes head*
He was refering to something I said on my website.
-Matthew
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> On the contrary my site has gained much publicity and traffic, an
> unforeseen side effect. As for alienating myself, well, I can't say I
> much care. If your friends aren't willing to accept and respect your
> feelings and opinions then they aren't really your friends. I have no
> fear of expressing the way I feel.
"With friends like that, who needs friend?" ... ;) -- "Rushmore"
-- Pawel
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:28:01 GMT, "Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > Sorry I tarnished anyone's tin God. Why don't you give it a rest
> > though, let him REST for God sakes.
> I can't believe you're actually saying this. Haven't you noticed YOU are the
> one who's insulting him?
I'm not insulting him, I just wish you'd let the poor guy rest in
peace. He isn't your tin God and you don't need to worship him like
you do.
> > On the contrary my site has gained much publicity and traffic, an
> > unforeseen side effect.
> Wow. If this is the kind of publicity you wanted, well buddy, let me assure
> you, you've got it. Personally though, I'm definitely not going to bother with
> your models after I've heard your attitude.
That's because you're limited. I mean take some great artist, say
Picasso, what if they were a complete a**hole? Does that make their
work any less great? Of course not. You say you won't visit my site,
in what way do you think that bothers me? I know my models are good,
I put them up in order to give other people ideas not to get something
back. I don't GET anything from my site, YOU get something from it,
you only try to hurt yourself by threatening to not go there if I
don't share YOUR opinions and YOUR feelings. I may have acted
somewhat rude, but at least I'm not acting childish Shiri.
> > As for alienating myself, well, I can't say I
> > much care.
> Enjoy yourself.
Imagine how wonderful the world would be if we all thought like you,
shared only your opinions, only liked the things you did, gosh, what a
wonderful world it'd be then, huh?
> > If your friends aren't willing to accept and respect your
> > feelings and opinions then they aren't really your friends.
> Yeah. Also, if you consider someone your friend, you'd try to give them your
> opinions in a way that wouldn't insult them. Have you ever heard of
> constructive criticism? Or, for that matter, of tact?
I did give constructive criticism. If I had just said, "Oh well
you're an absolute waste when it comes to building anything with Lego"
THAT would be non constructive. I simply stated that I had a fear
that whatever he was going to eventually come out with would not be
anything new or interesting to me. AND ONLY ME!!! I didn't say it
was your opinion, or that it was the opinion of everyone else, I said
it was MY opinion. Are you saying I don't have a right to express my
opinions? Even if they may make you feel bad? Because if you are
what the hell do you think YOUR doing right now?
> And you won't *make* yourself many friends by giving them your opinions in the
> bluntest way possible.
I have friends who are like me, people who like their friends to be
completely open and honest. I would hope that if I ever came up with
a Lego design that didn't look good people would say so and
specifically tell me why so that I could improve the idea and learn
from it. Being coddled like an infant your entire life only results
in spoiled brats, inefficiency, a lack of will to try to make
something better than what you think you can do, etc, etc.
> > I have no fear of expressing the way I feel.
> Obviously not.
Obviously you don't either, funny that.
> > > I don't understand where all this hostility is coming from, but you have a
> > > lot of growing up to do.
> > The irony of the situation makes what you said absolutely absurd.
> Really? I don't see it.
*shakes head*
Legos = children/childish play thing (this is the general opinion
outside the Lego community)
You told me to grow up, which doesn't make a lot of sense considering
that what we do can be considered a form of play. Get it now?
> All I see is that you need to learn a little bit of
> manners.
Gosh, imagine how perfect the world could be if everyone wasn't like
you and practiced what they preach.
-Matthew
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In lugnet.space, Shiri Dori writes:
> Ignoring for a second your rudeness to Jude,
Ignore more than that. He's got an... interesting... history on usenet.
Appears to be doing his best to be a professional offender. A search of
recent posts on Dejanews turns up nothing that isn't in alt.flame or
alt.hackers.malicious... It's an enlightening trip into the underside of
the 'net, but doesn't show much in the way of intelligent conversation.
James
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > > There's nothing wrong with yellow at all...however the color denotes
> > > happiness which makes the old Blacktron look like the happy, evil
> > > people or something. And people wonder why Lego changed Blacktrons
> > > colors...yeesh.
>
> > What on earth *are* you talking about? There is no Blacktron anywhere on the
> > site, new or old. What bugs me more than pessimists are pessimists that don't
> > know what they're talking about.
>
> *shakes head*
>
> He was refering to something I said on my website.
>
> -Matthew
*sighs, repeats self*
What on earth *are* you talking about?
Also... you spent 5 years working on your ship Black Hawk, no? Then why,
included in it, are pieces that only came out three years ago? I can already
see a *profoundly* worded statement to prove me wrong coming, and I have a
feeling I know what you will say. Still though... come on. Your models aren't
even that good in my opinion. Sure, some parts of them are cool, but when I
visited your site before this whole heap of nonsense started (feeling a smart
ass comment about now), I still thought they were something less than
extraordinary. There you go. Now you can flame me for calling your works crap.
Add one more checkmark to your hippocracy list.
Also... In defense of everyone and everything you blast to bits on your site:
LDraw is in an old format with no fancy graphics or anything because it was
made a long time ago, and has not been redone because people are happy with
what they have. If you think it sucks and better could be done, I would like
you to make a new version that is better.
As for Kyle Keppler, I jump to his defense. I don't think it makes you any
more of a person to pounce on someone who is younger than I, and I am only 15.
Also, do you have the slightest clue that the earnings for a minor are nowhere
near the amount to support a major collection which has the options of single
colors the full way through the model? I guess I had to clear that up for you.
Also... did it ever occur to you that the thumbnails on his site did not work
because he was doing a massive overhaul?
As for Tim Courtney, Zacktron is how it is because he has not worked on it in
a while, and his work has been diverted to many other projects, such as...
say... going to college, and say.. working on LDraw.org?
Sure, critical comments stated in a ploite manner fly with everybody. However,
you, to put it in your words, suck. Do your worst to me. Slam me and my site
and my financial status of not having enough money to support a huge
collection. Tear my models and my less than amateur web building skills apart.
I welcome you.
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"James Brown" <galliard@shades-of-night.com> wrote in message
news:G2LCL9.M5H@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.space, Shiri Dori writes:
> > Ignoring for a second your rudeness to Jude,
>
> Ignore more than that. He's got an... interesting... history on usenet.
> Appears to be doing his best to be a professional offender. A search of
> recent posts on Dejanews turns up nothing that isn't in alt.flame or
> alt.hackers.malicious... It's an enlightening trip into the underside of
> the 'net, but doesn't show much in the way of intelligent conversation.
>
> James
Mandroid all over again?
--
Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com
http://www.ldraw.org - Centralized LDraw Resources
http://www.zacktron.com - Zacktron Alliance
ICQ: 23951114 - AIM: TimCourtne
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:07:55 GMT, "Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Ignoring for a second your rudeness to Jude,
>
> In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> [..]
> > Oh which
> > reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> > site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> > James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> > looking at it in it's current state.
> I have never seen anything quite as rude as this.
I guess you don't read your own posts then, huh?
> I'm sorry, Matthew, but this
> is just too much in my opinion. Even ignoring everything else - all your
> little personal snipes at people's sites, which are already way outta line - I
> simply cannot believe how you can be so disrespectful towards James Jessiman.
You know, at least in the end I'll know that the Lego community will
never try to make a tin God out of me. That makes me smile inside.
> No, he's not a god - no one said he was.
It's not always what you say as it is what you do.
> Yes, he contributed a lot to the lego
> community. Yes, we all (most of us, at least) appreciate what he did. Those
> who knew him personally, or at least better than others, or felt that he
> helped them personally, put up something to remember him by. A memorial.
I appreciate what he did, but I do not appreciate the way he is
idealized by people like you. And the funny thing is, I think that if
he were alive he would agree with me.
> Your comments are not only insulting to many people personally in the
> community,
When you talk about the "community" are you speaking ONLY for the
people that you think are like you, or everyone? No matter how much
you would like to think everyone is like you, they aren't. The silent
majority always rules, even when there are people like you who try to
speak for everyone.
> but also directly disrespectful to James' memory.
No, it wasn't at all disrespectful to him or what he did. You only
see it that way because he's yer little tin God.
> It's your right
> to flame people's sites, if you don't care about people's feelings.
I'm the kind of person who believes great things can come out of harsh
criticism. I used to know absolutely nothing of computers or how they
worked. I liked to pretend that I did though. I had a teacher at one
point who basically flamed me for it. It really made me look at
myself and realize that he was right, but it also made me want to
prove to him that I could know as much as I touted. And I did. I
spent two years doing personal research, study, and exploration into
the realm of computer and learned everything I could. When I
graduated the school district appointed me as their technical
coordinator. I held the position for three years before then going on
to a 4 year university, fully paid for through scholarships and
grants. If you are willing to accept the fact that you may be bad at
something you can then start looking for ways of improving something
you can do, or trying to accomplish what you can't.
> I can't
> say it's something that'll make you friends, or supporters, but heck, it's
> your choice. But do us all a favor and don't insult his memory. It's the least
> you can do.
The least you can do is to STOP. I mean just stop already! He made
LDraw, he did some things for the community, he died, MOVE ON! I
personally believe that if it wasn't for people like you Lego CAD
technology and development would be 10 times as far along. Instead
all the people like you sit around and grope each other about how
wonderful LDraw is never imagining or attempting to think of ways that
it could be made better. I mean isn't that what building with Legos
is all about? Being able to take something good and make it better?
Use the pieces of one idea to form the next? Move on, and let James
rest in peace, he doesn't need you to idealize him as some sort of
demigod.
-Matthew
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> it was MY opinion. Are you saying I don't have a right to express my
> opinions?
... that's it! You no longer have the right to express your sucky opinions:)
Whew ... I'm glad that's taken care off ...
-- Pawel
Oh yeah - EVERYONE HERE SUCKS!!! BTW - visit my site:
http://www.lamersite.com.
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I knew it would happen someday...
This guy trolls the internet for "fights" and entertains himself by running
scams, creating controversy and starting/fanning flame wars.
IGNORE HIM... heed Larry P's words
Anyone remember the "MadD Hatter" threads from rtl?
(comments about Brickshelf, Lugnet, etc.)
Remember all the controversy and bitterness fostered in a never ending flame
war?
Generally any conversation he participates in devolves to a name calling
contest... I believe in constructive criticism and discussion of opposing
philosophies, but in a FRIENDLY + MATURE manner.
Well Matt is/was the Madd Hatter
Many people swar off rtl due to the unregulated animosity (although I
hesitate to give him that much credit)
Hasn't anyone seen the foul-mouthed flame wars that leak into rtl from
various "usednet" alt groups?
Well, LUGNET is generally a Troll-free zone .. I would like to see it stay
that way.
Lugnet is a COMMUNITY ... communities develop a CULTURE of laws, morays, and
acceptable behavior ... those people who violate the culture should be
SHUNNED/BANISHED.
John
In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:50:19 GMT, "Jude Beaudin"
> <shiningblade@home.com> wrote:
>
> > http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
> >
> > I left you a little teaser for now.
> >
> > Jude
>
> The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else. Oh which
> reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> looking at it in it's current state.
>
> -Matthew
> -http://my.ispchannel.com/~mmoulton/lego/index.html
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:41:14 GMT, "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com>
wrote:
> "Matthew" <moulton@hscis.net> wrote in message
> news:392224f8.7052548@news.lugnet.com...
>
> > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> > personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else. Oh which
> > reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> > site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> > James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> > looking at it in it's current state.
> >
> > -Matthew
> > -http://my.ispchannel.com/~mmoulton/lego/index.html
> Well, I was going to let the replies of the others suffice, until I actually
> visited your page. The image you have about James Jessiman is very
> inappropriate and insulting to the VAST MAJORITY of this
> community--especially to people who have devoted a good portion of their
> work to his memory and to what he created.
Yes, the vast majority who can't move on, who can't try and take what
he created and BUILD off of it, who can't see anything better than
what they have. Yes, I know all about the people like you, and I pity
you.
> I am one of the people who has
> donated a TREMENDOUS amout of time and energy to that very work. You have
> absolutely no business making such a statement to this community, especially
> when you can't tell this community's right hand from its left.
Oh so you're implying that I've done absolutely nothing for the Lego
community? It might surprise you to know that I have a bachelors
degree in computer science, more specifically programming. And I have
been working on numerous ideas to improve Lego CAD programs. At some
point (with hopefully the help of others) I want to release a new Lego
CAD program, one that doesn't require the installation of LDraw,
completely self sufficient, with build in graphic rendering, animation
effects, etc, etc. I've even considered hiring a few programmers to
help make the idea possible. It would require a vast financial
sacrifice on my part, but it's something I'm willing to do if it comes
down to it. My biggest fear though is that I'll end up like poor
James, idealized as a demigod, cyber memorials on every other Lego
site, the thought sickens me.
> As Mark said, you've done a good job of alienating yourself from everyone
> here, and you have a ton of growing up to do. Learn some respect for
> others - living or dead, and also kill your ego. Those comments and
> attitudes DO NOT belong here.
I'm sure you would love to think that I'm doing this for my ego. You
could not be further from the truth, but then showing you the truth
isn't exactly my point.
> While you're at it...read up on how big of an influence James had on this
> community - you might be sorry you insulted him, provided you do grow up.
Why can't you just let him be dead and move on?
-Matthew
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In lugnet.space, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.space, Shiri Dori writes:
> > Ignoring for a second your rudeness to Jude,
>
> Ignore more than that. He's got an... interesting... history on usenet.
> Appears to be doing his best to be a professional offender. A search of
> recent posts on Dejanews turns up nothing that isn't in alt.flame or
> alt.hackers.malicious... It's an enlightening trip into the underside of
> the 'net, but doesn't show much in the way of intelligent conversation.
Given this bit of (rather unsurprising) information, is there any chance of
enforcing something in the ToS to make this person go away? If not, is there
any chance of adding something to the ToS to make it easier to make people like
this go away in the future?
Even better, is there any chance of getting (starting to feel as though I'm
repeating myself here) a skip-filter based on poster's identity as well as
based on group? As things stand, if I were getting Lugnet via SMTP or NNTP I
could simply ignore anything he wrote, but there is no current method for that
via the web interface.
Before anyone says anything to me about being a content based censor, or any
other such bullsh... uh, baloney, people who have no other desire than to break
up an online community can and do pose as real a danger to the usefulness of a
forum as spammers. When someone's basic intent is to disrupt proceedings, they
can be very successful. Worse, when two or three- or 20 or 30- likeminded
people get together, they can be devastating.
In real life, if this yahoo walked into a restaurant where we were all enjoying
a non-alcoholic beverage of choice, the manager would be well within his rights
to ask him to leave; if he refused, police would probably be more than happy to
enforce that (except in San Fransisco, but that's another story). There's
little difference in the need for it here.
Given the threat of permanent banning, one of two things will happen:
1)He'll stop being a flame-festing dillhole because he actually wants to take
part in the community, or
2)He'll continue to be a flame-festing dillhole, because the only thing he
wants to do is disrupt, and he doesn't care about the community at large.
But there's only one way to find out.
eric
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:39:02 GMT, "John Robert-Blaze Kanehl"
<johnNYblaze44@webtv.net> wrote:
> I knew it would happen someday...
>
> This guy trolls the internet for "fights" and entertains himself by running
> scams, creating controversy and starting/fanning flame wars.
Yes I do, but not here, not in this group. In groups like alt.flame;
alt.usenet.kooks; etc. I do. But I do it to try and stop what those
people are doing to others. Ever been to AUK? They attack people
like you, like me, like all of us. I attack them because of it. But
again, that's NOT what I'm doing here.
> IGNORE HIM... heed Larry P's words
Gosh, wouldn't that be nice? I mean I personally would think it'd be
great if I could express my opinion about something, the way that *I*
want to and not have people criticize me for it. I mean I don't mind
if you want to disagree with me and even point out WHY I am wrong,
even if you want to do it in a "harsh" way like me, but I don't like
people who think they have to comment about my personal attitude, it's
rude, and unnecessary.
-Matthew
-http://my.ispchannel.com/~mmoulton/lego/index.html
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:07:55 GMT, "Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ignoring for a second your rudeness to Jude,
> >
> > In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > [..]
> > > Oh which
> > > reminds me, I added something new and unique to the data portion of my
> > > site. Come and see it if you want. I also added a SPECIAL tribute to
> > > James Jessiman. Oh and be sure you hit refresh to make sure you're
> > > looking at it in it's current state.
>
> > I have never seen anything quite as rude as this.
>
> I guess you don't read your own posts then, huh?
I guess you don't read YOURS either!
>
> > I'm sorry, Matthew, but this
> > is just too much in my opinion. Even ignoring everything else - all your
> > little personal snipes at people's sites, which are already way outta line - • I
> > simply cannot believe how you can be so disrespectful towards James Jessiman.
>
> You know, at least in the end I'll know that the Lego community will
> never try to make a tin God out of me. That makes me smile inside.
Do you know any phrase other than "tin god"???
A few pop into mind to me:
-idol
-great man
-person loved by the community...
> > No, he's not a god - no one said he was.
>
> It's not always what you say as it is what you do.
>
> > Yes, he contributed a lot to the lego
> > community. Yes, we all (most of us, at least) appreciate what he did. Those
> > who knew him personally, or at least better than others, or felt that he
> > helped them personally, put up something to remember him by. A memorial.
>
> I appreciate what he did, but I do not appreciate the way he is
> idealized by people like you. And the funny thing is, I think that if
> he were alive he would agree with me.
Then why won't you, as you said in a previous post,
"let him REST"
>
> > Your comments are not only insulting to many people personally in the
> > community,
>
> When you talk about the "community" are you speaking ONLY for the
> people that you think are like you, or everyone? No matter how much
> you would like to think everyone is like you, they aren't. The silent
> majority always rules, even when there are people like you who try to
> speak for everyone.
Well, those against you are the onlyones speaking here, get some support, or
SHUT UP!!!
> > but also directly disrespectful to James' memory.
>
> No, it wasn't at all disrespectful to him or what he did. You only
> see it that way because he's yer little tin God.
again with the "tin god", OY!
> > It's your right
> > to flame people's sites, if you don't care about people's feelings.
>
> I'm the kind of person who believes great things can come out of harsh
> criticism. I used to know absolutely nothing of computers or how they
> worked. I liked to pretend that I did though. I had a teacher at one
> point who basically flamed me for it. It really made me look at
> myself and realize that he was right, but it also made me want to
> prove to him that I could know as much as I touted. And I did. I
> spent two years doing personal research, study, and exploration into
> the realm of computer and learned everything I could. When I
> graduated the school district appointed me as their technical
> coordinator. I held the position for three years before then going on
> to a 4 year university, fully paid for through scholarships and
> grants. If you are willing to accept the fact that you may be bad at
> something you can then start looking for ways of improving something
> you can do, or trying to accomplish what you can't.
>
> > I can't
> > say it's something that'll make you friends, or supporters, but heck, it's
> > your choice. But do us all a favor and don't insult his memory. It's the • least
> > you can do.
>
> The least you can do is to STOP. I mean just stop already! He made
> LDraw, he did some things for the community, he died, MOVE ON!
No, sir, You can STOP already and move away from LUGNET, for you are not
welcomed by most that I've read in this thread.
> I
> personally believe that if it wasn't for people like you Lego CAD
> technology and development would be 10 times as far along. Instead
> all the people like you sit around and grope each other about how
> wonderful LDraw is never imagining or attempting to think of ways that
> it could be made better. I mean isn't that what building with Legos
> is all about? Being able to take something good and make it better?
> Use the pieces of one idea to form the next? Move on, and let James
> rest in peace, he doesn't need you to idealize him as some sort of
> demigod.
>
> -Matthew
Well, if you care about letting James rest, then why put that horrid little
gif on your page? I haven't heard word one about James for about 1 year.
Your the one worshiping someone like a god, and that someone is yourself.
WAKE UP!!!
-John Rudy
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > > mind once arriving at your webpage.
> >
> > The words "not cool" and "very little person" come directly to mind.
>
> Simplicity of character is the natural result of profound thought.
Words from someone who has been eating too much humble pie? (cough)
> My site has got nothing to do with it, I wasn't comparing the sites, I
> pointed out that I thought the site was poor given the promises, then
> I directed people to my web page if they wanted more information on
> just why I thought so.
I must be missing something -- all I saw that Jude said in his announcement
was, "I left you a little teaser for now." I don't see how that is tantamount
to making promises, nor how anyone would feel compelled to post a rude
follow-up message. He (Jude) wasn't even asking for opinions, so it seems
doubly rude IMHO to go pointing out that you think a site is "going to suck"
like you did.
Why the rotten attitude?
And why should anyone care what you think?
> > Jude,
> > The site looks promising. I always like checking out L draw stuff seeing
> > as how I don't do any myself. I love the cyclops guy!!!
> > Bryce McGlone
>
> Well break out the Pampers and start the coddling, looks like somebody
> gets to play victim. Do the world a favor and lose the triangulation
> pattern of behavior.
Jeez, Matthew, what are you smoking? And why are you even here? Are you
here to stir up ill feelings and make trouble or are you here to have fun and
enjoy LEGO?
--Todd
p.s. Jude -- what LarryP said is about how I feel. I'm not generally a big
fan of teasers, but I am eagerly awaiting to see more -- the minifig with the
block and light for a head has me very curious! :-) Keep it up!!
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:22:02 GMT, "Jude Beaudin"
> <shiningblade@home.com> wrote:
>
> > > The words, "I'm afraid" and "this is going to suck." come directly to
> > > mind once arriving at your webpage. Keep in mind that's just my
> > > personal opinion and probably not shared by anyone else.
>
> > <snip>
>
> > Ouch!!!
> >
> > That is far from what the page is gonna look like. I just wanted to get a • buzz
> > going. I did not want to invest much time in the layout of a page with a • simple
> > preview picture (the little teaser).
>
> What bothered me about it was that you touted it as if it was
> something really incredible and I thought it was.
Frankly, I didn't intend the post for you. It was for my friends here on
LUGNET, you know some of the ones who replied to you as well as others. I have
been active in the community for a little while now and only have a couple of
pictures on Brickshelf to show for my creativity. I wanted to let my friends
here know I am in the midst of planning my own LEGO web pages so I included a
simple picture on the home page to begin to stir up their curiosity.
I apologize that Todd has not added in lugnet.space.Jude's-friends but he has
been busy working on other projects.
> Until I arrived,
> only to find a render of a minifig character with a headlight instead
> of a head. I mean if that was such an impressive thing to do I might
> have been a little more intrigued, however I can't think of anyone
> whose ever played with Legos who hasn't at some point tried sticking
> funny things on minifig characters.
The head was inspired by the TV show MASK many years back and I have kept
it 'alive' in my collection ever since I first saw the show on Global here in
Ottawa.
> If I was 6 I may have found it to
> be somewhat interesting however at this age it denotes nothing such as
> skill or artistry when it comes to building Lego models.
lit·tle
Pronunciation: 'li-t&l
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): lit·tler /'li-t&l-&r, 'lit-l&r/; or less /'les/; or
less·er /'le-s&r/; lit·tlest /'li-t&l-&st, 'lit-l&st/; or least /'lEst/
Etymology: Middle English littel, from Old English lytel; akin to Old High
German luzzil little
Date: before 12th century
1 : not big: as a : small in size or extent : TINY <has little feet> b : YOUNG
<was too little to remember> c of a plant or animal : small in comparison with
related forms -- used in vernacular names d : small in number e : small in
condition, distinction, or scope <big business trampling on the little fellow>
f : NARROW, MEAN <the pettiness of little minds> g : pleasingly small <a cute
little thing> h -- used as an intensive <why, you little devil!>
2 : not much: as a : existing only in a small amount or to a slight degree
<has little money> b : short in duration : BRIEF c : existing to an
appreciable though not extensive degree or amount -- used with a <had a little
money in the bank>
3 : small in importance or interest : TRIVIAL
synonym see SMALL
Did I use this word correctly in describing my teaser for my friends?
> > BTW, are you afraid of yellow or something? :-)
> >
> > Jude
>
> There's nothing wrong with yellow at all...however the color denotes
> happiness which makes the old Blacktron look like the happy, evil
> people or something. And people wonder why Lego changed Blacktrons
> colors...yeesh.
I know you aren't afraid of yellow I was only trying to keep the mood light.
> -Matthew
Matthew, can I ask you to please refrain from commenting on my site unless you
choose to submit your comments in a constructive manner. Personally, I did not
appreciate the manner in which you replied to my posting.
Jude
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:28:01 GMT, "Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com>
> > Wow. If this is the kind of publicity you wanted, well buddy, let me assure
> > you, you've got it. Personally though, I'm definitely not going to bother
> > with your models after I've heard your attitude.
I used to be a fan of Matthew's weapons designs, but I'm afraid that I too
am going to suffer, going forward, from limited interest in things Matthew
says and creates. It's my own fault for not being able to ignore his rotten
attitude, but I guess I'm OK with that. If his stuff is great, it will
inspire others with thicker skins and I'll learn from them instead.
> That's because you're limited. I mean take some great artist, say
> Picasso, what if they were a complete a**hole? Does that make their
> work any less great? Of course not.
(LOL)
Matthew, your stuff is good, but you're no Pablo Picasso.
(Neither am I, so I don't feel bad saying that.)
> You say you won't visit my site,
> in what way do you think that bothers me? I know my models are good,
> I put them up in order to give other people ideas not to get something
> back. I don't GET anything from my site, YOU get something from it,
> you only try to hurt yourself by threatening to not go there if I
> don't share YOUR opinions and YOUR feelings.
If your goal really is to give ideas, then surely you realize it's easier to
get there and inspire more people by being polite than by being rude?
> I may have acted
> somewhat rude, but at least I'm not acting childish Shiri.
I think this is an interesting example of how different people can view things
different ways. I actually thought Shiri's response was rather adult/mature.
It seems to me that you (Matthew) are the only one here acting childish
(except maybe my post here, which is somewhat childish).
> > > As for alienating myself, well, I can't say I much care.
> > Enjoy yourself.
> Imagine how wonderful the world would be if we all thought like you,
> shared only your opinions, only liked the things you did, gosh, what a
> wonderful world it'd be then, huh?
Mandroid was much better at your game than you'll ever be.
> I did give constructive criticism. If I had just said, "Oh well
> you're an absolute waste when it comes to building anything with Lego"
> THAT would be non constructive.
That's funny, that's what I heard when you opened your bu^H^Hmouth.
> I simply stated that I had a fear
> that whatever he was going to eventually come out with would not be
> anything new or interesting to me. AND ONLY ME!!!
Uhh, tell me again, why we should care what you think?
> I have friends who are like me, people who like their friends to be
> completely open and honest. I would hope that if I ever came up with
> a Lego design that didn't look good people would say so and
> specifically tell me why so that I could improve the idea and learn
> from it. [...]
Matthew, it's apparent that you've got some deep-rooted psychological issues.
Are either or your parents perfectionists or alcoholics? Have you considered
seeking professional counseling or cognitive therapy?
--Todd
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In lugnet.space, John Robert-Blaze Kanehl writes:
> Lugnet is a COMMUNITY ... communities develop a CULTURE of laws, morays, and
> acceptable behavior ... those people who violate the culture should be
> SHUNNED/BANISHED.
I agree 100%. It's critically important for a community to be able to boot
someone if they really become a problem. I don't think Matthew is quite there
yet but I'm sure he could get there if he wanted to.
--Todd
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> You know, at least in the end I'll know that the Lego community will
> never try to make a tin God out of me. That makes me smile inside.
Tin God, no. Maybe a tin spitoon.
--Todd
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> I'm the kind of person who believes great things can come out of harsh
> criticism. [...]
I generally share that belief. However, it seems to me that you come here
to make not criticism but noise.
Harsh criticism only has a chance of positive results when those doing the
criticizing are respected and well articulated.
--Todd
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:39:02 GMT, "John Robert-Blaze Kanehl"
> <johnNYblaze44@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > I knew it would happen someday...
> >
> > This guy trolls the internet for "fights" and entertains himself by running
> > scams, creating controversy and starting/fanning flame wars.
>
> Yes I do, but not here, not in this group. In groups like alt.flame;
> alt.usenet.kooks; etc. I do. But I do it to try and stop what those
> people are doing to others. Ever been to AUK? They attack people
> like you, like me, like all of us. I attack them because of it. But
> again, that's NOT what I'm doing here.
(tone down your sarcasm meter - it might go off)
AH, I see. So you're only a jerk other places! Here, you're the essence of
good-natured fun.
Sorry, bub. You seem to have some capacity for critical thought (albiet used
very childishly - just because I'm calling you a jerk doesn't mean other
people think so too.), so I'm giving you the benefit(?) of the doubt by
assuming you say what you say on purpose, and not out of social ignorance.
That being said, how can it not occur to you that being a jerk somewhere else
might make people think you're a jerk here, especially when start acting like
one?
James
(x-f-up to off-topic.debate... should have done that in my other post too.)
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:07:55 GMT, "Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I can't say it's something that'll make you friends, or supporters, but
> > heck, it's your choice. But do us all a favor and don't insult his memory.
> > It's the least you can do.
>
> The least you can do is to STOP. I mean just stop already! He made
> LDraw, he did some things for the community, he died, MOVE ON!
Matthew, when will you realize that the more you try to discourage people from
this, the more it will have the opposite effect? I bet that makes you very
frustrated.
> I personally believe that if it wasn't for people like you Lego CAD
> technology and development would be 10 times as far along. Instead
> all the people like you sit around and grope each other about how
> wonderful LDraw is never imagining or attempting to think of ways that
> it could be made better.
A one-dimensional, warped perception of reality.
> I mean isn't that what building with Legos
> is all about? Being able to take something good and make it better?
> Use the pieces of one idea to form the next? Move on, and let James
> rest in peace, he doesn't need you to idealize him as some sort of
> demigod.
Humans need demigods.
--Todd
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:39:02 GMT, "John Robert-Blaze Kanehl"
> > This guy trolls the internet for "fights" and entertains himself by running
> > scams, creating controversy and starting/fanning flame wars.
>
> Yes I do, but not here, not in this group.
Matthew, please move your drivel to .off-topic.debate or somewhere else off
of LUGNET. You're adding no value to the .space group -- in fact, by all
these off-topic posts, you're detracting value from it.
> [...]
> Gosh, wouldn't that be nice? I mean I personally would think it'd be
> great if I could express my opinion about something, the way that *I*
> want to and not have people criticize me for it. I mean I don't mind
> if you want to disagree with me and even point out WHY I am wrong,
> even if you want to do it in a "harsh" way like me, but I don't like
> people who think they have to comment about my personal attitude, it's
> rude, and unnecessary.
I hope you leave.
--Todd
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In lugnet.space, Greg Majewski writes:
> In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > > In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> > > > There's nothing wrong with yellow at all...however the color denotes
> > > > happiness which makes the old Blacktron look like the happy, evil
> > > > people or something. And people wonder why Lego changed Blacktrons
> > > > colors...yeesh.
> >
> > > What on earth *are* you talking about? There is no Blacktron anywhere on the
> > > site, new or old. What bugs me more than pessimists are pessimists that • don't
> > > know what they're talking about.
> >
> > *shakes head*
> >
> > He was refering to something I said on my website.
> >
> > -Matthew
Greg hit it all right on! Most of my creations that you have flamed on your
little page are older and admittedly not AWESOME but are also not HORRIBLE as
you and your friend make them out to be... I also agree that while your models
are ok and have some very cool parts, they are not the BEST models EVER.
Everyone is allowed their opinion, and this is just mine, but I believe that
you should not express this in such a wild manner, which will (and has) upset
many people. There are so many things I'd like to say and do right now they
are unlistable, but I will hold out to not sink to your level. If you would
like to comment about my site or creations, please keep them positive and
constructive, or just keep them to yourself altogether.
As far as ALL of my creations sucking, take a look at the newer ones, which I
personally like much better than my older ones. They are mostly color-coded
but not always because my income (or the lack thereof) prevents me from having
huge amounts of bricks around for me to use. As for the broken links, my site
had been up for 3 or 4 days since the massive overhaul, and still had a few
bugs.
Someone was nice enough to email the problem to me and it was promptly fixed.
So, could you just spare us the comments or if you have a beef with me, could
you take it out personally with me by email?
*sighs*
Why are there so many people out there whose only goal is to put others down?
Got news for ya, it aint workin', and is not going to get you far in this
community, let alone in this world...
--Kyle
> *sighs, repeats self*
>
> What on earth *are* you talking about?
>
> Also... you spent 5 years working on your ship Black Hawk, no? Then why,
> included in it, are pieces that only came out three years ago? I can already
> see a *profoundly* worded statement to prove me wrong coming, and I have a
> feeling I know what you will say. Still though... come on. Your models aren't
> even that good in my opinion. Sure, some parts of them are cool, but when I
> visited your site before this whole heap of nonsense started (feeling a smart
> ass comment about now), I still thought they were something less than
> extraordinary. There you go. Now you can flame me for calling your works crap.
> Add one more checkmark to your hippocracy list.
>
> Also... In defense of everyone and everything you blast to bits on your site:
> LDraw is in an old format with no fancy graphics or anything because it was
> made a long time ago, and has not been redone because people are happy with
> what they have. If you think it sucks and better could be done, I would like
> you to make a new version that is better.
>
> As for Kyle Keppler, I jump to his defense. I don't think it makes you any
> more of a person to pounce on someone who is younger than I, and I am only 15.
> Also, do you have the slightest clue that the earnings for a minor are nowhere
> near the amount to support a major collection which has the options of single
> colors the full way through the model? I guess I had to clear that up for you.
> Also... did it ever occur to you that the thumbnails on his site did not work
> because he was doing a massive overhaul?
>
> As for Tim Courtney, Zacktron is how it is because he has not worked on it in
> a while, and his work has been diverted to many other projects, such as...
> say... going to college, and say.. working on LDraw.org?
>
> Sure, critical comments stated in a ploite manner fly with everybody. However,
> you, to put it in your words, suck. Do your worst to me. Slam me and my site
> and my financial status of not having enough money to support a huge
> collection. Tear my models and my less than amateur web building skills apart.
> I welcome you.
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In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes:
> http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
>
> I left you a little teaser for now.
Since I gave an opinion on this in .debate, I might as well follow my own
advice. You haven't given us much to work with, Jude, but the sideways
headlight brick as the basis for an alien head holds promise. Trying this
myself without putting a light in the open end looks like an open mouth to
me...maybe adding eye(s) above this mouth is another possibility. Are you
planning on incorporating a cyclopian scheme in the vehicles/spacecraft for
these aliens?
--Bram
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
......
> down to it. My biggest fear though is that I'll end up like poor
> James, idealized as a demigod, cyber memorials on every other Lego
> site, the thought sickens me.
Muwhahahah... I'm reading right know the whole thread and I occasionally
giggled about your pukes (the man with the best spacecraft creation ever, etc.,
etc..) but this is the best from you I think..:-) This must be the last thing
you should be afraid of, madhatter.
Selçuk
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In lugnet.space, Matthew Moulton writes:
> My biggest fear though is that I'll end up like poor
> James, idealized as a demigod, cyber memorials on every other Lego
> site, the thought sickens me.
Don't worry, I don't think that will ever happen. From the few things I saw
on your site, I didn't see anything that I'll remember a week from now, let
alone years from now.
(Maybe you could try making a *positive* impact to the 'Lego community'
sometime?)
I hope you've made lots of friends with your little diatribe, because you'll
be long forgotten by the rest of us...
JohnG, GMLTC
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In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes:
> http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
>
> I left you a little teaser for now.
>
> Jude
The Moulton flame war is on again, and when I investigated the original
incident, I came to this post. The fighters look really cool, I like Mr.
Wiskers and Roller, and the boxy ships look like a bunch could land on a planet
and start a colony. I like it.
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In lugnet.space, Mike Cormier writes:
> In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes:
> > http://members.home.net/shiningblade/index.htm
> >
> > I left you a little teaser for now.
> >
> > Jude
<snip the things I don't want to discuss>
> The fighters look really cool, I like Mr. Wiskers and Roller, and the boxy
> ships look like a bunch could land on a planet and start a colony. I like it.
Thanks! :-)
Jude
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