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Re: 'Will ship to United States only - Oi!
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lugnet.market.shipping
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Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:18:04 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Torsten Fresemann writes:
> In lugnet.general, Alan Demlow writes:
> > The green forms are a pain, yes,
> Really? Why?
> Contents: Lego toy set(s). value: whatever. gift: yes. signature. done.
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> > My only real problem with the green forms is that many buyers ask me to fill
> > them out essentially dishonestly--to undervalue things, or to call something
> > a gift that they're paying cold hardcash for.
> What's so wrong about checking the "gift" box? About declaring a lower value,
> well, if the consignee accepts the risk of underinsurance, then why not? The
> seller has nothing to lose or gain by putting a value which is not the actual
> sale price. The customs duties in some countries can make quite a difference.
Well, some people probably feel that it is dishonest, because it *isn't* a
gift. But even discounting that, in most countries, it's mail fraud, and
illegal.
> > I find it frustrating that many governments want a piece of the
> > action on a $25 or $50 sale of toys between private collectors, but I also
> You're absolutely right.
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> > think international buyers should either write it off as an unfortunate cost
> I disagree - see above.
You're welcome to disagree, obviously, so long as you don't complain if your
goverment catches you and charges you.
> > picture). Of course, we Americans are ones to talk--we can import $500 (or
> > more) worth of Lego without paying a red cent to the customs folks, as
> Lucky you... ;-)
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> > compared to 15% or so on merchandise items valued above DM50 sent to Germany,
> Upto a declared value of DM 100 there's no duty.
> Upto a declared value of DM 700 you have to pay a duty of 13.5%.
> Above DM 700 the duty is 3.5% in addition to VAT of 16%.
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> > and whatever the costs are in Canada (equally painful, if I recall
> > correctly--especially with the automatic CND5 "service charge" or whatever
> > they call it just to look at your package).
> Indeed, I did not know this, but what a rip-off.
Somewhat. The $5 CND that gets charged is a brokerage & processing fee to
assess the GST (federal tax). I'll happily pay $5 instead of the $30 or $40
that UPS charges for the same service, or the $20+ that it would cost to go
through a brokerage firm.
Obviously, I'd just rather that I didn't have to pay it - and I'll grumble
about it as much as the next guy - but it's cheaper than anyone else around.
James
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| In lugnet.general, Alan Demlow writes: <snip. (...) Indeed. As a German-based Lego fan, I cannot comprehend what can possibly so difficult in packing a box, putting it on a scales and looking up the postage in a booklet or on the website? Or is (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-01, to lugnet.general)
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