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Re: who's feelin the black pack?
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In lugnet.starwars, Damien Nesbit writes:
> O.k., O.k., I agree, poor chice of politicians to name on my part. But
> why is it so hard to convince the lugnet community of the politicization of
> toys?
Because toys should not be politicized. I have a feeling you are just someone
bored who is trolling, but I'll bite because I believe this is an important
issue.
If you are arguing an ideology, take it all the way. What is your ultimate
objective here? Equality? A sense of fairness in the toys?
You mentioned that Mattel, for example, makes non-white Barbies. This is a
valid point. If I were, for example, a white parent, and all of the popular
dolls were "dark-skiined", I might want a white doll that my child could
identify with. It would not be imperperitive for me personally, but I
understand the rational. However, toy companies certainly have no obligation
to do so. There are a side variety of toys out there. If you don't like it,
don't buy it. It is wonderful how well this works.
LEGO is a completely different "toy" (I use the word loosely in deference to
many opinions here). The "peach" or "caucasian flesh" color would certainly be
easy for them to make. It must have been a conscious choice for them to make
the skin of the minifigs yellow. I stand by LEGO in their decision to so far
NOT politicize their toys. Notice that the heads you mentioned "Darth Maul",
for example, is an existing color. Do you really want to see a black head with
a white smiley face? Do you want them to mold a new color? Use brown? All
of these, in my opinion, are ridiculous.
Leave the minifigs yellow. It is a neutral color that does not really exist in
the spectrum of human skin. If your objective is to have no one race be
discriminated against, this will be your solution. If it is to push a fanatic
agenda and stir up confrontation, keep pushing the "other than yellow" skin
tones of minifigs.
I for one like my LEGOS equal, non-politicized, non-raced, and neutral. At
least something can be.
Jason
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| (...) be (...) with (...) in (...) First things first, jay, I really want to curse you out for your condescending remark that I am "just [...] bored [and] trolling." To insinuate that I'd try to stir up controversy around this issue without being (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| O.k., O.k., I agree, poor chice of politicians to name on my part. But why is it so hard to convince the lugnet community of the politicization of toys? If lego toys are as some say, no more than toys, somebody needs to clarify for me why they (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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