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    U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Rick Hallman
   Here is a Ohio-Class Submarine exposing it's top 1/4. I added a missile hatch depending on the mood of the day. (URL) I have been told the water area might not be big enough for this, but... who knows. Rick (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug, lugnet.build, lugnet.boats)
   
        Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Jake McKee
     (...) Looks cool! I do think that a square area of water, with some sort of border effect (almost like a plastic model ship diorama would have) would really look nice. Maybe even some whitecaps off the bow! Jake --- Jake McKee AFOL LUGNET Member (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
   
        Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Scott Sanburn
     Rick & All, (...) Heh heh, good job RIck! It is hard to get those round surfaces. Looking at this picture: ("Breathtaking, I shall name it mini-missile") (URL) should ask Lindsay for that missile he posted a picture of the the other day, 4 wide, heh (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
    
         Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Rick Hallman
      (...) Thanks! (...) I saw that, but a little big for THIS model... *hint hint wink wink* (...) BOOOOM! P.S. For January can I have a military Missile reloading sation? PLEEEEASE! Rick (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Peter Guenther
      (...) If you can't find one, remind me to bring one to GATS. (...) Only if we can fire it at other exhibits. You're right, Scott, we'll get those Miami Valley Modular people yet!!! Peter (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Scott Sanburn
      Peter & All, (...) I ahve a few also, just in case. (...) Now that would be a display, huh? Almost a Mindstorm project..... I can see the story now....... As the judges go around looking at displays, when they are not looking, a office building at (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Rick Hallman
      (...) Cool beans. (...) BOOO...OOOM! BTW, what is with MichLUG and Miami Valley? (...) Don't foget the Plutonium. You can get that from the Libyians... until they come after you in a VW minibus. Rick (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) They "won" (1) first place at the January show so ever since there has been a bit of ribbing of them (2) by some of us. 1 - as in the GATS people chose them, although it's billed as a "people's choice". 2 - which they presumably are totally (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Scott Sanburn
      To All, (...) Indeed. It was sickening to see them whip out their modules in 5 minutes and they were all set. They had trailers that the parts just fit in. Pah! ; ) (...) Yes, we heard a few grumblings. Oh well, get used to us! HA HA HA HA HA (Evil (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Peter Guenther
       (...) I *STILL* say we should do that... divide up the layout into different "neighborhoods," and each person is responsible for one or more neighborhoods. For the buildings, that it--lay the track down after. All we'd need is plywood with the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Scott Sanburn
       Peter, (...) Well, it might be nice, but impractical. It just boils down to most people do not have that big of collection. Chris and Steve are making most of the display anyway, and the implications of trying to get that kind of things done before (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Future plans Was(Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Scott Sanburn
       Peter & All, Boy, I knew I should have waited before replying. I was too tired last night. I apologize for the last message here, it sounded really bad. I would like to see a plywood system that we can assemble before hand so we can transport it (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           (canceled) —Amy Hughes
      
           Re: plywood —Peter Guenther
        (...) I think we will be a lot better off this time than in January because we'll have the plan WITH US (sorry Chris) and you guys have spent a lot of time fine-tuning it. On the other hand, our tear-down would be a lot quicker with a modular (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: plywood —Chris Leach
        (...) Hey it was only an hour late<grin> This time so i don't do that again I am sending a final copy of the layout to Scott, Amy etc. so that everyone has his own copy(That way i can't leave it at home again) (...) Peter that sounds pretty good.I (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: plywood —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) I agree. Just having baseplates affixed to plywood modular tables doesn't save much time at all. However (and let me be clear that I'm not advocating that we switch to the GMLTC modular system, not by any means at all) that's not what GMLTC (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) We *can* do that, you know. Just takes time and money. GMLTC layout is modular and loads onto a custom trailer. Takes a bit more than 5 min to set up but not much more. Just time (a lot of it) and money (a lot of it). That's all we need. (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
    
         Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Jesse Alan Long
      (...) The best way to get some round pieces, as far as I know, is to order some Stingrays LEGO sets from the Aquazone theme. The pieces are gray but they are round in structure. Your submarine is nice as a first model but I personally would have (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Rick may have been trying to fit his sub into the space allotted to him in the layout. But it does beg the question, is it so small that it's too far below minifig scale even with selective compression? These things are monster sized. I would (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Chris Leach
       (...) Space is tight down in that corner.I wouldn't mind seeing that sub in the show.That area of the layout will kinda be decided once Peter G.,Ricks and everyone elses buildings are placed.If we have room left we can give more water space.Why we (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Sorry I missed it. I have been working up the (small) space allotted to me to make a good looking display without regard to where the buildings came from. I think that's more important (to have it look cohesive and look like the buildings (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Peter Guenther
        (...) My point when we discussed it was that first and foremost, we do this for fun. We do it because we love building with LEGO. For that reason, our priority should be to give space to our members to display their own handiwork. If we've got stuff (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) I understand and accept that viewpoint but I guess my goal is a little different in that I want to have the best display possible, one that wows the crowd, not necessarily one that includes only work of members, or one that is geared to be as (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Peter Guenther
         (...) I'm in agreement with you here--though I think Chris and Amy have some terrific large buildings that should definitely be part of the display. (...) I also agree with you that we shouldn't spend space on stock TLC buildings--maybe a couple (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Chris Leach
         (...) Larry ,Peter,Rick and all I am cutting down on more of my things to make room for more of your guys buildings etc.I want to see if i can get back enough water for Ricks sub for one thing.I want to make sure there is enough room etc.People want (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
        
             Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Peter Guenther
         Definitely don't eliminate the airport. If you need to, cut it down, but I don't want to lose it--or your fire station. Peter (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Scott Sanburn
        Larry & All, (...) Well, Larry, I am all for impressing the crowds, but this sounds like you would rather see a bunch of sets from people who aren't part of the group, whether they are Guilds of Bricksmiths or what, and I think that concept is (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) You're correct. That concept is wrong, because it's not what I am saying. My goal for the very small portion of the total I was given is to make the best structural display I am capable of making. That's it. The entire rest of the layout can (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Chris Leach
         (...) If that is how you want to do it that's fine.That school would look good by my houses. (...) Umm are you saying you only build mediore buildings or just mediocre compared to someone like Kevin W. ?(of course most of us IMO build mediocre (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
        
             Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Larry Pieniazek
         (...) Neither, exactly... just that given the time remaining and my own time budget per week (not very large) mediocre is the best I can do in a short span. (...) ++Lar (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Scott Sanburn
         Larry, I wrote about three different responses to you about this, and I really don't feel like posting anymore about it. Do whatever you want with the space you have, if we have more space, I am sure you will get more, and I hope whatever you bring (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
        
             Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Larry Pieniazek
         (...) This sarcasm on your part is totally uncalled for. Reread what I said, and don't twist my words around, please. (...) This sarcasm is beneath you, Scott. Again, reread what I said and don't twist my words around please. All I ever said was (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
        
             Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Scott Sanburn
         Larry, Well, it looks like I misread your posts, Larry, but I did reread yours a number of times, and if I read them wrong, I apologize. (...) That's fine. Bring that you want in the space you have. (...) I have gone too far. All right. Well, Larry, (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            (canceled) —Amy Hughes
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Frank Filz
        (...) for (...) Feel free to ignore the following advice from an outsider... I reccomend against a policy which requires everything to be home brew. If that had been the rule in our recent show in Raleigh, I would have had just a handfull of things (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Scott Sanburn
         Frank, (...) Well, you don't really know the situation, and some other items involved with this, but anyway... (...) That is not the policy, nor were we thinking about it in that regards. Fair enough? Scott S. -- (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
       
            Re: Building priorities (was Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS) —Peter Guenther
        (...) I don't think we'd have a real problem with a policy like this. If you look at out January display, we filled--what was it, 18x24?--a layout and had very few stock buildings. Lots of stock cars and train parts, but really not that many stock (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Lester Witter
       (...) Maybe you could have more than one building for some of the locations and swap them in and out as the day proceeds. Then visitors could (potentially) see something new each time they came back. This is a big advantage for out baseplate (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Chris Leach
       (...) Very good idea Lester! (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Works for me! ++Lar (who just got his brickfest air tickets so is now definitely going unless the biz trip bracketing it gets cancelled) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       (...) Heh. Well, the rogues' gallery will be well nigh complete. ;) best LFB (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Rick Hallman
      (...) I was. I am planning a bigger one when i can get a poo-load of red and black. (...) I'll sell it to ya for 3 Galaxy Exolprers. (...) I may need some help on this part. That's some neat stuff, but isn't the entire display flat? How would a warf (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Peter Guenther
        (...) I think the wharf could be done pretty well with the ramp and elevated train platform pieces. It would definitely be lower than your sub, though. In any case, spacewise I don't think we can consider it, from what I've seen of the layout. The (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
      
           Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Frank Filz
       (...) You can even get a black zodiak now... Frank (23 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
     
          Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Exolprers? I think I have some (that I can claim are) of those... (lessee, a timmy sitting on a 4x4 quad inverse with two 2x8 black plates for wings. Yes, I have 3 of those, no problem) (...) YOu have to fake a depression. That is, use a few (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
    
         Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Kai Brodersen
     (...) I have made a missle like that if u need it (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
   
        Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Geordan Ballantree
   Good work! I quite like it. What is GATS? Geordan (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
   
        Re: U.S.S. Grand Rapids for the GATS —Scott Sanburn
   Geordan, (...) GATS stands for Great American Train Show, in which MTLC / MichLUG will be participating in next month. Here is a link: (URL) S. -- (23 years ago, 30-Jun-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)
 

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