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Subject: 
Re: Elian Gonzales
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:35:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeff Stembel writes:

My moral code allows me to pass judgement on other moral codes (that is, I
reject moral relatavism) and therefore if the father really wants to go • back,
he's broken. Hence unfit anyway.

Yeah, I've noticed your "moral code" also allows you to ignore any opinions
you disagree with.

I don't really think that's a matter of morality, more like time management.
If you only have time to post ten messages, why bother answering banal posts?

Now, not every person that passes through should be snatched. Only those • that
want asylum of their own free will, or that are too young to decide for
themselves.

Larry, do you really mean that we should abduct all kids under the age of ten
or whatever?

Are you just itching for a war?  Actions like this would cause public outcry
across the globe!

You know, I think this public opinion in foreign nations is way over valued.
Who cares what they think?  We should replace "in God we trust" with "Bite Me"
on our currency.

Also, who determines whose moral code is superior?  What would stop Cuba or
China from snatching our children under the claims that *they* are morally
superior?

Nothing.  There are foreign nations that snatch American children.

America IS morally superior to Cuba.

How can one back that up?  How is Moral Superiority determined?  Are you the
only one who gets to decide it?

I can attest that Larry is not in fact the only one.  I get to decide too.  I'm
pretty sure there are others here who have asserted that they are comfortable
doing so as well.

We could be better still if we'd just get rid of venal killers like Reno

Okay, where is the evidence on this?  It seems to me to be in bad taste to • call
a person a paid assassin without evidence.

Definitely.

I assume that the bulk of Larry's beef with Murderer Reno(tm) is her handling
(or lack thereof) of the bumbling massacre of US citizens by the federal
government near Waco Texas about seven years ago.  Honestly, I agreed with him
at the time, but I guess I feel like her main crime was not to take the
government's misdeeds very seriously.  She inherited the situation, but I do
think she should have investigated, apologized, and tried her people who
caused the debacle.

Chris



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Of course not. If Larry did, then he wouldn't be able to confuse you with his standard irrelevant hypotheticals. (...) Positing about an accident makes your argument irrelevant to this specific case, since Elian *didn't* wash up here (...) (25 years ago, 28-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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