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Re: Elian Gonzales
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:44:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > To say anything else than that these facts about Cuba are indeed facts is to
> > > be an apologist for one of the last few hard line Evil Empire outposts.
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> > This is political and propaganda-based grandstanding, as well as utterly
> > circular reasoning.
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> It's grand standing but it's not circular, based on your statement about
> preconceived notions. The gist of that was that you seemed to be in denial
> about how bad things are there (and in other hard line communist states, and
> in a bunch of non communist places as well). You've recanted so we'll let it
> slide.
Thanks!
The circular part is that either the reader has to agree with your view, or
else that reader's view doesn't count. In addition, it's also a "false
dilemma," (if I recall my terminology correctly) in that it presumes to force
a choice between two, though not the only two, alternatives.
Dave!
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| (...) to (...) While true, that's not circular. For example, if you believe in strict creationism, your view on particular steps of the evolutionary process being true or not has no bearing, inasmuch as you've not accepted a fundamental premise (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) properly (...) Add "deluded" to the list and I will go with yes. It's that simple. (...) It's grand standing but it's not circular, based on your statement about preconceived notions. The gist of that was that you seemed to be in denial about (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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