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Re: Elian Gonzales
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Date: 
Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:06:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott P. Costello writes:
Alright I know that this may not be the proper forum for this discussion, but
I wanted to vent my concerns to someone, and after the extensive anti-Mormon
thread I figured what the heck. (I will endure any flame because of it).

I must say that I am not exactly suprised, but deeply saddened at the actions
taken by Janet Reno and the Department of (in)Justice.  In case you live out
of the country or have been hiding under a rock the past few days, Attourney
General Janet Reno ordered a very violent, military abduction of a six year
old Cuban boy, from his American relatives who had been caring for him for the
past five months.  The boy was dragged at gunpoint kicking and screaming in
terror, enroute to being reunited with his father in Washington DC.

The "family" was forcibly detaining Elian against court orders from being
reunited with his father.  Why they aren't in jail is beyond me.


I feel that these actions were excessive, unnecessary, and cruel.  The
President and Janet Reno (neither one famous for their honesty)

Find me a (living) politician who is!  :-)

defend this
action saying that the boys relatives were unwilling to give up the boy
peacefully.  However, at the time of the raid, the family was in negotiations
very close to a solution that would have satisfied all parties involved.

Nope.  They were just continually stalling.  But Reno, after her previous
fiasco in Waco, was bending over backwards to negotiate, when in actuality
there was nothing to negotiate: Elian was in the extended family's custody
until his status was determined.  That status was determined, and they had no
right to forcibly hold him and "negotiate".

Even
if what they say is true, the pure trauma inflicted on this young boy is
inexcuseable.  Imagine the horror of being dragged out of your home at the
barrel of a machine gun, now imagine it through the eyes of an innocent six
year old child.

I view that as the fault of the lawbreakers.


I support the policy of sending the boy to live with his natural father, and
am very glad that the two have been reunited, but the ends definately do not
justify the means.  I am appauled and ashamed that something so heinous could
take place in the modern United States.  Thank you for allowing me to voice my
frustrations.

Just one simple American.
Scott

This poor kid has been a political (and semi-religious) football.  He is with
his father, where he should be, though we are left with the self-serving
political grandstanding from all sides.

Well spoken, by the way, even if I disagree.

Bruce



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  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) There appear to be conflicting court orders in effect, as there is also a ruling in effect that Elian can apply for asylum in his own right and that the guardianship is valid. Or that's my understanding. (...) Andre Marrou. John Bergland. Ron (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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Alright I know that this may not be the proper forum for this discussion, but I wanted to vent my concerns to someone, and after the extensive anti-Mormon thread I figured what the heck. (I will endure any flame because of it). I must say that I am (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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