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Re: Elian Gonzales
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:36:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> But then my maternal grandparents divorced over the question of whether to
> escape East Germany or not in the late 40s. My grandmother chose to stay
> because her son had come back from the russian POW camps brainwashed. My
> mother stayed as well. My grandfather fleed.
> It wasn't till the mid fifties that my mother came to her senses and escaped
> as well. I submit to you that my grandmother was an unfit parent.
However, was every other parent who remained in East Germany a likewise
unfit parent? This again seems too sweeping a claim, generalizing everyone
under one circumstantial banner.
That said, the fact of your uncle’s brainwashing is dreadful. I have a
friend whose grandfather was "drafted" by the Gestapo and never heard from
again. How was it determined that your uncle had been brainwashed, if I may
ask?
> 1- Quoting from Human Rights Watch (thank you, Libertarian Party for a very
> timely press release that I can crib from)
Parenthetically, is there a link you can post? I'd actually be interested
to read this.
> NOTE PARTICULARLY points 4 and 5
Okay, okay. No one here denies that Cuba has a lot to answer for, civil-
rights-wise. Some people feel that that's the paramount issue here, while
others feel that the question is one of rightful parental custody. I number
myself the latter, and to my moral code it is clear. It’s the simple fact that
Sr. Gonzales has rightful custody of his son and should be able to live
wherever he pleases, barring direct and demonstrable jeopardy to Elian.
I'd still be interested to hear from you on some of my other points in
http://www.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=5335 which have gotten lost between
this post and that.
Dave!
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| (...) It's not entirely a custody matter. In my view Elian applied for asylum merely by appearing here. The niceties of when was the formal petition filed and so forth are just legal machinations being used to deny civil rights. His mother gave her (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Let me connect the dots for you. Arguably, Elian's mother would have been better served if she could have flown from Cuba to FL in a commercial airliner. Or even taken a large passenger liner, or in extremis, a 50 foot fishing trawler. But (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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