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Re: Elian Gonzales
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:55:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> Okay, okay. No one here denies that Cuba has a lot to answer for, civil-
> rights-wise. Some people feel that that's the paramount issue here, while
> others feel that the question is one of rightful parental custody.
It's not entirely a custody matter. In my view Elian applied for asylum
merely by appearing here. The niceties of when was the formal petition filed
and so forth are just legal machinations being used to deny civil rights. His
mother gave her life to make that petition for asylum happen. An asylum
petition takes precendence over a custody decision, in my book.
That asylum petition should be granted, and would be if we lived in a country
that respected the rule of law (but then, remember, I support unrestricted free
immigration of all who wish to come here as long as they are willing to
work)... After it is in force, if Elian's father wishes to pursue custody of
his son HERE because he's decided to move here, that's fine, but once he gains
it, if he does, he cannot return to Cuba with Elian, who has asylum here,
inasmuch as returning him there would directly contravene the very asylum he
seeks.
However, that's not the only way to disprove. Here's another...
> I number
> myself the latter, and to my moral code it is clear. It’s the simple fact that
> Sr. Gonzales has rightful custody of his son and should be able to live
> wherever he pleases, barring direct and demonstrable jeopardy to Elian.
Quoting again:
* Requires parents to raise children with "Communist
personalities." If parents stray from the official ideology,
they can be charged with the crime of "hindering the normal
development of the child."
That's direct and demonstrable jeopardy. Therefore I would deny custody. QED.
++Lar
PS, you asked for a pointer. All LP news releases get posted to the www.lp.org
site, but it's a sporadic process. Currently the most recent one is almost a
month back.
I'll mail this particular release to you if you like.
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| (...) Hmm... That's interesting, and I hadn't previously considered it that way. If he'd fallen out of an overflying plane, would he (assuming his survival) likewise have applied automatically for asylum? If, while I'm vacationing in upstate New (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) However, was every other parent who remained in East Germany a likewise unfit parent? This again seems too sweeping a claim, generalizing everyone under one circumstantial banner. That said, the fact of your uncle’s brainwashing is dreadful. I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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