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Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:18:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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Unique Selling Point. I understand he ticks all the correct ethnic
minority boxes in one swoop. This means there is no need for other
minorities to have a token presence in a movie, thus allowing more room
for white guys!
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I think you need to make up your mind whether he is black or a “USP”,
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How would 40’s America have viewed him. (A genuine question).
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But an utterly non-relevant one! :-)
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That depends on what relevance one attaches to the character’s name alone.
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would imply you should have known to check the character’s name.
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You mean like your name implies your Irishness? ;)
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Don’t wanna admit that you identified the character as black incorrectly, eh?
:-)
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I’m happy to admit to not having watched the film enough to know the character’s
name. I’m happy to admit to not knowing what typical African-American surnames
are; are there even such names?
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I knew fine what you meant. I’m often bemused by the inability of
Americans to call themselves American; I recall that you are an
Irish-American. ;) I expect it’s a cultural thing.
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Idunno, my buddy simply refers to himself as Apache - identifying himself
by a name inspired by an Italian mapmaker seems a bit Euro-centric to him.
Our names leave a cultural trail, along with perceptions and
misperceptions, though I feel I should point out the irony that you are the
one that used the phrase “Irish-American”, not me. :-)
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Did I?
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Right there earlier in the sequence quoted above!
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I thought you were referring a thread at some point in the past. It is clear I
mentioned it 1st in this thread and that you have called yourself part-irish in
the past. I’m not sure what your point is? Have I offended you?
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I’ll take your word for it... you certainly have noted your Irishness a few
times.
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But never by the phrase “Irish-American”. And I believe I have merely noted
my Irish forebears, not my “Irishness” (again, your phrase).
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To be honest, I’m not sure what your point is?
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I’m not about to watch it again to find out; life is too short to watch
that film again. ;)
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I’m envious of your experience if you can recognize Miss Weisz solely by her
naked backside! And Bob Hoskins and Ed Harris had good performances at
least.
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The only good thing about that film is the newsreel footage that comes as an
“extra” on the DVD.;)
Scott A
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| (...) If the character was "passing for Italian (descent)" the film probably would have made a point of it. I just think you are making a mistake in presuming that since Vin Diesal is black/part-black, that he is only going to play a character that (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) But an utterly non-relevant one! :-) (...) Don't wanna admit that you identified the character as black incorrectly, eh? :-) (...) Right there earlier in the sequence quoted above! (...) But never by the phrase "Irish-American". And I believe (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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