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Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
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Sat, 29 May 2004 09:17:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:

   Saving Private Ryan is basically Holywood’s version of events; I’m not a big fan of Hollywood re-writing history. Soldiers from many nations took part (most notably USA, UK & Canada); indeed the whole thing could have failed if the Brits did not take and hold Pegasus Bridge in arguably the first action of D-Day. None of that even gets lip service in the film.

I’ve never quite understood this criticism. How is a movie that covers the action of little more than a squad supposed to cover Juno, Gold, and Sword? D-Day is all of 20 minutes of the film.

The film is longer than 20 minutes. Even so, were the pathfinders on all the beaches not Brits? Also, in WW2, what would the chances of a black guy (Diesel) being in a frontline squad be? Were non-whites not relegated to logistics (as they could not be trusted to fight by those who knew best)? Either way SPR is not the history lesson some would suggest.

   Doesn’t Britain have it’s own film industry?

   Can’t they screw up stories on their own and make Americans play the villian (Enemy at the Gates)? :-)

Did we make that rubbish; If so, I’ll blame the English! ;)

  
Why in the world would Brits/Canadians want to trust their stories to Hollywood anyway? I don’t get it. ;-)

Indeed. I’ve seen U571.

Scott A (Who prefers The Longest Day)



  
  
I would suggest “every American” read about and discover the story for themselves. Ambrose (who helped with SPR and wrote Band of Brothers) has a very accessible book on D-Day and an excellent book on Pegasus Bridge. Check them out!


Highly recommended to all of those.

-->Bruce<--



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  Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
(...) Your command of the obvious is impressive. (...) What the heck is your point? You really will argue about anything! (...) Again, it is a movie, not a documentary. (...) Again, what the heck is your point? (that is a rhetorical question because (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
(...) You were complaining about D-Day. As I said, the D-Day sequence is all of 20 minutes of the film. The rest is a squad searching for an american paratrooper which were generally dropped behind the american beaches. (...) Were they with the (...) (20 years ago, 30-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
 
(...) I've never quite understood this criticism. How is a movie that covers the action of little more than a squad supposed to cover Juno, Gold, and Sword? D-Day is all of 20 minutes of the film. Doesn't Britain have it's own film industry? Can't (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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