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Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
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Sun, 30 May 2004 04:31:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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Saving Private Ryan is basically Holywood’s version of events; I’m not a
big fan of Hollywood re-writing history. Soldiers from many nations took
part (most notably USA, UK & Canada); indeed the whole thing could have
failed if the Brits did not take and hold
Pegasus Bridge in arguably the first action of D-Day. None of that even
gets lip service in the film.
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I’ve never quite understood this criticism. How is a movie that covers the
action of little more than a squad supposed to cover Juno, Gold, and Sword?
D-Day is all of 20 minutes of the film.
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The film is longer than 20 minutes.
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You were complaining about D-Day. As I said, the D-Day sequence is all of 20
minutes of the film. The rest is a squad searching for an american paratrooper
which were generally dropped behind the american beaches.
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Even so, were the pathfinders on all
the beaches not Brits?
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Were they with the specific single company covered in the film? This was a very
narrow focus story about a very narrow set of characters and you are complaining
that the entire scope of D-Day wasn’t covered. It’s a simply ridiculous
criticism. If you wish to say that the entirety of film doesn’t do the
Canadians/Brits/French/Russians/Etc. enough coverage, that’s a different issue
entirely, and one that the Brits should point a finger at themselves for in
part.
Also, in WW2, what would the chances of a black guy
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(Diesel) being in a frontline squad be? Were non-whites not relegated to
logistics (as they could not be trusted to fight by those who knew best)?
Either way SPR is not the history lesson some would suggest.
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I think you are making some inaccurate assumptions about Vin Diesel’s ethnicity
to refer to him simply as “black”. Anyway, the character he was playing was
Italian (Pvt. Adrian Caparzo).
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Doesn’t Britain have it’s own film
industry?
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Can’t they screw up stories on their own and make Americans play
the villian (Enemy at the Gates)? :-)
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Did we make that rubbish; If so, I’ll blame the English! ;)
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Paramount, but the essential production company was British, so the main
culpablity lies there. But I’ll narrow it down to the English if you prefer.
And it at least had that body double that I can pretend was really Rachel
Weisz... :-)
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Why in the world would Brits/Canadians want to trust their stories to
Hollywood anyway? I don’t get it. ;-)
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Indeed. I’ve seen U571.
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And I’ve seen “Breaking the Sound Barrier”, so count that as payback. :-P
-->Bruce<--
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| (...) I think "randomly dropped” would be a better descriptor. ;) (...) The landing craft's pilot would probably have been a Brit. (...) I see your point, perhaps I was just been overly cautious of the movie industry re-writing history. As an aside, (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The film is longer than 20 minutes. Even so, were the pathfinders on all the beaches not Brits? Also, in WW2, what would the chances of a black guy (Diesel) being in a frontline squad be? Were non-whites not relegated to logistics (as they (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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