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Does Canada not have some sort of register for self-confessed dirty old men? ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 11-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The 'damning' probe into the UN Oil for Food Programme fades away from the popular press like a summer frost, but where is the spotlight on the financial management of relief and reconstruction programmes? (URL) if nothing else, the UN knows how to (...) (20 years ago, 11-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He found that exposed undergarments were 'offensive'??? K... well then... Maybe if a guy's undergarments were exposed... no need for that! But the thong/lowrider jeans combination? I've seen that and sometimes it's quite opposite of (...) (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Honest but nice?" What kind of liberal tree-hugging drivel is this? What I really want is to make him *think* I'm being nice while humiliating him in the eyes of his literate peers. Okay, maybe not. (...) Can I at least alert him to the, (...) (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I liked this story: (URL) Why underpants must stay under in the state of Virginia> Scott A (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Be honest, but nice--'I didn't enjoy the book.' If he attempts to lend you another, or try to involve you in a debate about why, just say, "It's not my cup of tea." and leave it at that. 'No thanks' always works for me when fellow employees (...) (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) By the way--the book to which I was referring in that longago post was *not* the bible. Anyway, I've found myself in a similar predicament with a different coworker and a different book. This time, my esteemed peer has heartily recommended a (...) (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Since we all know how much Dubya hates them durned activist judges, I'm confident that he'll be speaking up to condemn (URL) scandalous over-reaching of judicial authority. For a moment, let’s set aside the question of whether or not an (...) (20 years ago, 10-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Scott, I don't know if you meant "surly" or "surely" there, but either way that's one of the most fitting word-blurs I've ever seen. (...) Clearly, you're one of those who hate freedom. Dave! (20 years ago, 4-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Surly, Dick Cheney could have stepped forward and hugged Janet Norwood on behalf of the Halliburton shareholders? It is intersting that Bush is planning public sector cuts whilst, against the advice of his own auditors, (URL) not withholding any (...) (20 years ago, 4-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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During Dubya's latest inarticulate and noncommital description of his plans for destroying the country, viewers were treated to what I'm sure was in no way a planned event: an (URL) embrace> by two women touched by deaths in Iraq. The Iraqi woman, (...) (20 years ago, 3-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I thought this was a good read: On September 4 1967 the New York Times published an upbeat story on presidential elections held by the South Vietnamese puppet regime at the height of the Vietnam war. Under the heading "US encouraged by Vietnam vote: (...) (20 years ago, 2-Feb-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I hope that they remain empty. It is simply too inhuman to put people there. Which reminds me: Has anybody made a LEGO model of the Guantanamo concent camps? Fredrik (20 years ago, 27-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Obviously, the cages should be filled by those who oppose Freedom and Democracy, such as Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, and Ron Paul. Each of them has had the audacity to question Dubya's Divine Mandate and to remind His Righteous (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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After three years being held in Bush's Cuban torture facility on undisclosed charges based on undisclosed evidence, (URL) three Britons were freed yesterday>. Any suggestions for who should occupy those four empty cages in Guantanamo Bay? Scott A (20 years ago, 27-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, I guess I can see how a discussion of trivial outrage inspired by a perceived failure of journalism is completely distinct from serious outrage inspired by an actual, systemic failure of journalism. Sorry to blur these two obviously (...) (20 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, I'm 100%, born, bred, living Asian Indian (to distinguish from Native American tribes) (...) Wouldn't that be discrimination? ;-) (...) Serious or not, irrelevent or not, the fact is that people will read it and their general impressions (...) (20 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow! Yours is the most reasonable post I can remember reading in .debate. Thank you for staying on topic and not feeding the troll. You hit the ball out of the park! (American baseball expression) -Erik (20 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, Hindi is the official language of India, but English is spoken just as much here. Legoswami Samarth (20 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Samarth, I've got to commend you on your level-headed maturity, especially for your young age, not just here, but in all things you've been posting on. Send me your address privately-- I'll send you a few Han Solo's in carbonite--free of (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) English is an official language of India, has been for many, many years. That's 'native', as in 'native speaker' But, I aside from the minor nitpick, I agree 100%! Tim (Smith) (20 years ago, 26-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, you're not one of those non-native speakers of English, are you? Jeez, I wish you guys would wear distinctive hats, or something, so that we can tell you from those of us lucky enough to live under the Annointed Rule of the His Mighty (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Tolerance...Dave Schuler are you out there?
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(...) Hi Justin! Bruce has already given a good answer, but since your question stems from something that I wrote, I'll take a shot, too. Here's my original post, for those readers joining us late: (URL) there are several ways to look at it. For all (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, youre gonna have to choose another topic, I can't lie and say I'm from the US, because I'm Indian. I'd rather not comment on matters I have partial/incomplete knowledge of in the first place; that'd be asking for trouble. So I'll be (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, let's maintain some perspective, shall we? This is a campus newspaper, rather than a mainstream AP publication, right? And the article in question is an opinion column, as opposed to a work of research journalism. Honestly, I have a hard (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Civil War!
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(...) That's "War Between the States", ya Yankee! And I'll send Boris and Natasha after you if you even think about swivel-hipping your way outta this. :-) Gray: 'Merican. Or maybe rebel. Wait, that implies "civil war". Dang, this gets (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you preach tolerance, it pretty much mean you are against intolerance. If you want to play a semantics games and call that intolerance of intolerance, I'm sure that one could make an interesting debate of it, but generally, the argument is (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Dave, Long ago I gave up responding to off-topic debate as I simply don't have the time to respond to all the tangents, etc. However, I still ocassionally get sucked into reading some of the threads. Somehow I've found myself dragged into a (...) (20 years ago, 25-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Hypocrite in Chief
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Read all about it (URL) What the heck is a "culture of life?" Considering that Dubya judges himself qualified to speak in favor of it, I can only conclude that it endorses the deliberate slaughter of some 100,000+ innocent civilians (not to mention (...) (20 years ago, 24-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
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In lugnet.color, Richard Noeckel wrote: (...the stuff that Richard writes.) Richard, that post was HOT. With every word I read, I feel the passion growing in my loins. Please continue turning me on. Love, Iain (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Civil War!
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(...) OMG, that was so smart... Seriously too funny! Scala, Galidor, and ZNAp...you're a genius!!! ~See, war CAN be fun. --==Richard==-- (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
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(...) :::Warning, this is a personal attack!::: No one will ever really love you Calum! (Except maybe for your parents) But aside from family, you will never be truly be loved. This is true, and we all know it. I don't care if i get banned, or if (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Civil War!
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(...) I believe the official TLC names for all the colors are in this list... (URL) #199 and #208 are suspected to be the correct entries for the 'new' shades of gray. Ray (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(snip) My army of Scala and Galidor figures wielding pieces of ZNAP weaponry are poised for war.... BTW--has anybody actually bothered to find out what the "official" new gray colors are called? Perhaps that should be referenced instead of "old gray (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | the Law of Unitended Consequences strikes again
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(URL) course, some (who favored this act) might say that if you want protection from your abusive boyfriend that you're living with, too bad. You should be married if you want protection! (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) George Bush: the United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you. Scott A (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Where is the justice?
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(...) (Did I mention the UN?) Did Bush not prove last week that the UN disarmed Iraq? (...) Do you mean Afghanistan; the country which is now ruled by warlords? (...) Do you mean Iraq; the country which is now ruled by err... NOBODY? Why no mention (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Civil War!
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In lugnet.color, Richard Noeckel wrote: [snip - just go back and read it] Alright! At last, some clear sense in this morasse! My legions of Bionicle mutant toa heroes stand ready for battle! They are through with being put down. Their patience is (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder if we should all put away our toys (or dump them off at the local children's hospital, donate to the tsunami children) and go outside for a bicycle ride, or grab a book or something. -Patrick (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All right, Brickwars it is! We can have a massive battle at Brickfest, the color-fast against the color-less. um, are there any bley minifigs out yet? (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Let's do this! I'm tired of this debate. I'm sick of the contention between individuals. Enough!!! Let's just 'throw down' and go to war. Let's just put the civility aside and flame the hell outta each other. C'mon, bring it... I like the old grey, (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.color, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.announce)
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| | Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
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(...) Ok that was TOTALLY uncalled for. And why the heck is your reply spotlighted?! -Bryan Changing newsgroups cuz this kinda crap doesn't belong in dear-lego or color. (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Where is the justice?
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(...) Theocracy (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Many folks would count death, starvation, those sorts of things, as worse than totalitarianism. It is only the fact that the vast majority of folks count other things as worse that lets totalitarianism survive, as it always has survived, and (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Where is the justice?
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(...) Well Bush's support for totalitarianism in places like Uzbekistan is one. Scott A (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Where is the justice?
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote a lot, and I chose to pick on just one sentence, out of context: (...) Care to elaborate? I mean, in my view, the very WORST thing about the Bush admininstration is that it is facilitating the slide (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Where is the justice?
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(...) No reason to suspect this. As I recall Scott has some serious reservations about some of the things the UN has done. I think he was talking about Bush Jr, the current US President and Leader of the Free World. (...) Perhaps you could watch (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Where is the justice?
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(...) But (URL) don't stop there>. ROSCO (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The Justice? Justice? Are you one of those people that think the United Nations is the greatest thing since creamed cheese? Because I havent seen anything good from them in the last five years. Under the Dubya Administration, the United States (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here's yer Justice raaaaght heeeere.... (URL) off-topic - on-topic bomb! (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're looking for justice in a country that lives by the law of the gun? Took 'em over 200+ years, but with this administration, the US is truly showing its true colours--he who has the biggest gun makes the justice. There's a new sherrif in (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Where is the justice?
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Charles Graner gets 10 years for torture. George Bush gets "4 (more) years" for mass murder. Where is the justice? Scott A (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Mission Accomplished!!
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(...) Think back to Powel's presentation to the UN and all the people who bought it hook, line & sinker... it would be funny if so many people had not died. Some quotes from OTD: "As for the WMD's, for me the discovery of those mobile labs was (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Australian terrorist released without charge...
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(...) And what is it with governments not wanting (or feeling the need) to apologise for anything? Habib has lost 3 1/2 years on suspicion which has proved not indictable, yet he and his young family will receive compensation from neither his (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Australian terrorist released without charge...
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Three years without a trial, without even a charge, and now released: (URL) know we're supposed to be relieved that the detention is over, and thankful that the overlord has relented and freed our citizen, but I can't help wondering how the US (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Wait a minute, why did we invade Iraq again?> Dave! (20 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) X-FUT! keep build.mecha for Mecha discussion please. e co-curator lugnet.build.mecha (20 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lay off, x-fut. That does not excuse your slander. Thanks a lot, I never said horrible things about you like that. Can't you see. Just leave me alone. e (20 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:> that is all well and good, but those quotes are from before Iraq launched the (...) I forgot that Everything Changed On September Eleventh. Dave! (20 years ago, 5-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Dave, that is all well and good, but those quotes are from before Iraq launched the 911(tm) attacks on the USA… please don’t over look that… er… fact. Bush (Jr): We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength; (...) (20 years ago, 5-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: From Reason: "It's all bad news - Chaos in occupied Iraq"
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(...) I know that John doesn't hang out in OT.Debate much anymore, and this isn't really an attempt to refute the claim he makes in this paragraph, but I recalled his statement when I read (URL) this.> A few 1,000 indeed. (...) Other thoughts re: a (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) SNIP (...) we're splitting hairs a bit however my statement about their wealth is based upon suppositon. One can only afford to loose so much and if it were not an issue they would not be worried about maintaining control.-Ken (20 years ago, 31-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) No worries. However, you did make the claim that "A company exists to make a profit". The fact that Lego is a private company is neither here to there, a company does not exist to make a profit. And yet that's what you claimed. You didn't lie, (...) (20 years ago, 31-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) SNIP (...) Thanks for defending the "non Public part" As for "increasingly less wealth" it was exactly choosen to make the point. Lego has been loosing money for years and the family/owners have been increasingly worried about maintaining the (...) (20 years ago, 31-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Who polices the grammar police? (was Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update))
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(...) And since when is 'watchout' a word? ;-) Cheers Richie Dulin (20 years ago, 31-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) Privately owned is not the same as non publicly owned. (Though Lego is both non publicly owned and privately owned.) I'm not sure why I spelled it 'publically', though. Must be that speech to text software acting up again. ;-) (...) It would (...) (20 years ago, 31-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) Shouldn't that be "Here come the grammar police"? :) DaveE (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) Geesh Ross, put the ruler away, someone might get hurt. Bad memories of overly strict teachers with nasty looks on their faces. Janey "C- Red Brick" (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(URL) (...) "privately owned" (...) "decreasing wealth" ROSCO (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) You are correct in saying that it is not publically owned, but why do you say 'except'? It makes no difference. There are plenty of non publically owned companies that do not exist to make a profit. (...) Is it? How do you know? Cheers Richie (...) (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) SNIP (...) Except Lego is not publicly owned. It is owned by people with increasingly less wealth. -Ken (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) Lego is by definition a failure as a company? An interesting assertion. (...) I think it might be... (...) No... a company exists to pool resources and to protect shareholders. A company will often (but not always) seek to give a return to (...) (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
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(...) No as I said this is only part of the puzzel. This decision on it's own would mean nothing (...) Absolutly. You have to be making a lot of poor decisions to be loosing money for as long as they have been. (...) While this is the view of the (...) (20 years ago, 30-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Two Questions and a Comment (was Re: A Community Problem)
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(...) That's true. Of course, the LEGO v MegaBloks suits are somewhat different from LEGO v Shifty/Brick, since LEGO's beef with MegaBloks involves the specific design of the studs-n-tubes interlocking system and the "look" of the 2x4 brick, whereas (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Two Questions and a Comment (was Re: A Community Problem)
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(...) I thought we already HAD an AFOL who was a lawyer... but he quit and went on to be a LLCA model builder. :-) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Two Questions and a Comment (was Re: A Community Problem)
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(...) That's generally accurate, although IIRC there have been lawsuits eating up time and money from both TLC and MB. And I expect this is primarily "Comapny X" against Lego, like the Lego against the China knock-off, or Lego against Best-Lock. I (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Two Questions and a Comment (was Re: A Community Problem)
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(...) I was referring to the direct kock-offs of TLC sets, and I apologize for inadvertently lumping all 'building brick' competitors into the same mold. (...) The issue for me is that they may have to take, or already have taken, this course of (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Two Questions and a Comment (was Re: A Community Problem)
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(...) I'd like to mention that legitimate competitors such as BTR and MegaBloks do not engage in the illegal duplication of TLC's protected intellectual property, so these two companies (at least) should be considered separate from those less (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ken Nagel wrote: <snip> (...) TLC's failings are directly related to this issue? TO their 'poor decision making?' Nothing to do with the fact that the competitors are consitently making a poorer quality product and (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unfortunatly your definitin of open minded means I have to agree with you. I don't and you left out of your quote that this was touted as the "LAST CHANCE" (...) Carful now your getting personal... Intent is not relevent. The did what hey did. (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You've put up a good fight-- I don't expect Lego or others would believe that there's a majority negative opinion at this point, whereas had none of us spoken up, that might have been a possible interpretation. I don't think anyone (excluding (...) (20 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ditto (...) Censorship does come into play when you say "LUGNET doesn't (yet) have threadlocking. But I personally (and this is not a statement of policy, I am not wearing my hat) wish we did. Because if we did, I'd lock this thread so fast it (...) (20 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no need to misinterpert anything. I can read what jake posted on these boards and words mean things. I read what Lego chose to publicly post. (...) They should have found a diffrent way to satisfy Maersk and keep their word to the (...) (20 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snipped most of it to focus on one point (...) Note that saying that you think a discussion is over, does anyone have anything NEW to add, is not censorship. If no one adds anything new, asking that people not repeat the same points except LOUDER is (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for the support. Unfortunatly while I could go back and point out the posts where I have been personally called a liar, my asking of a simple moral question has been labeled a detriment to the site and some how it it said to "impune" (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One more time from the top--if you want to misinterpret what happened, by all means. But, let's look at Ken's very example, which is completely inaccurate to the actual situation. (...) LEGO made no such promise and there was no going back on (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Ken, for being that patient in explaining your point (which is mine at the same time). A lie is a lie and a broken promise is a broken promise. And Lego is having no finacial success while Playmobil (in Europe) and Megabloks (in (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dear Ken, I propose a very simple solution. If you don't buy the new Maersk set because of your moral convictions that it is wrong then Jake's original statement, and any other TLC 'implications' becomes true. It will be your last chance to buy the (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) SNIP (...) Jake Mckee posted on these very boards “Then it’s time for another new adventure! It measures 69cm long and is your last chance to buy Maersk bricks! AND:"This is a small run too – only 14,000 total, with 10,000 coming to Shop At (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) SNIP (...) SNIP Exactly If I made a promiss not to buy anymore Lego for the month the latest sale would be a pretty poor excuse for breaking that promiss. -Ken (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First off I've said nothing about anyone personal. For some reason my asking a simple question hits home personaly with some. Not my fault though. Second I only stated a fact as I've experienced it. There are those on the company can do no (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You've crossed the line again, Ken. You need to remember that LUGNET is a privately-owned resource and not a pulpit for you to denigrate and demean people you disagree with. Larry, as a LUGNET staff member, has the right and responsibility to (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Snip I don't think this is part of a plot or deliberately cooked up. If it was only this problem there would be no problem. There's a patern of poor decisions, misreading the consumer (AFOL and not) and inability to see when a mistake has been (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly I am trying to draw him out so he can see the point. If someone did something like this to him on a more personal level he'd problably be outraged. (...) Funny that the only people I've met that want to put on their brown shirts and (...) (20 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I would agree with that assessment wholeheartedly, John. That said, if you said, "I can only produce 200 of these printed shirts because I only have 200 shirts of this colour, and I don't have the opportunity to get more shirts of this (...) (20 years ago, 24-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know what, at this point if I was head of marketting at TLC I would pull the new run from S@H and only supply them to Maersk. That'd make money for the company AND save their integrity (1). ROSCO (1) As percieved by a small number of AFOLs (20 years ago, 24-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Scott Lyttle wrote: <snip> (...) I would only ever make as many shirts as a customer would want:-) (...) Well, at this point, I, as the producer for the group would be totally out of the loop. (...) I'm not sure a situation involving (...) (20 years ago, 24-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow Larry, you missed a perfect opportunity for a footnote! (...) And a sub-footnote opportunity missed no less! That's not like you at all! Wink. ROSCO (20 years ago, 24-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) It may be a moral question, but more importantly it's a "have you stopped beating your wife?" question too. I tend not to go around claiming I'm a man of my word. Why would I need to? If I have to make a big deal about it, maybe I'm not. So (...) (20 years ago, 24-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't impugn anything. I asked a simple question wich is quite relevant given that this is at it's essence a moral question.-Ken (20 years ago, 24-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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