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Re: Where is the justice?
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Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:05:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote a lot, and I chose to
pick on just one sentence, out of context:

There are worse things than totalitarianism.

Care to elaborate? I mean, in my view, the very WORST thing about the Bush
admininstration is that it is facilitating the slide of the US toward
totalitarianism (as you point out in part of the part I snipped)...

I have a hard time reconciling that view of mine with the notion you put
forth that there are worse things than totalitarianism.  What are they?

Many folks would count death, starvation, those sorts of things, as worse than
totalitarianism.  It is only the fact that the vast majority of folks count
other things as worse that lets totalitarianism survive, as it always has
survived, and shows every sign of going on surviving for a very long time yet.

Which is not to say that it is not worthy to risk starvation and death in a
sturggle against totalitarianism.

It is not worthy to fling tens of thousands of other people's lives (without
their consent) at a futile crapshoot which might, if we are very very lucky, end
totalitarianism in a state, or more likely, not.  Even less worthy to be doing
it in the name of freedom, while actually operating from motives entirely less
altruistic.  Even less worthy still to be demonising someone else and not
accepting responsibility for one's own deeds in the area.

Perhaps in the fullness of time Lar will get the chance to prove his worthy
views that nothing is worse than totalitarianism in the struggle to save the US.
The processes of global warming and the exhaustion of global oil supplies
suggest that push will likely not truly come to shove in Lar's or my generation,
but it does seem likely that it will come not long after.

I hope that if it comes to that in Australia, I might behave as well as he plans
to.

Richard
Still baldly going...



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  Re: Where is the justice?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote a lot, and I chose to pick on just one sentence, out of context: (...) Care to elaborate? I mean, in my view, the very WORST thing about the Bush admininstration is that it is facilitating the slide (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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