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I have mixed feelings about this whole thread, but the one person that comes closest to expressing views I can agree with is Ben. I do think there is a gap that does and probably should exist between "fans" and an official company person. I think (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Sad. To see the supposed 'Center of the LEGO Online Community' adopt such tactics and immaturity over an issue that should have been dealt with in email in the first place shows one thing clearly to me: Everyone who has been telling me that LUGNET (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.starwars) !
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(...) Suzanne - As someone who has worked with Jake on many occasions, I find this post gravely offensive and an uncalled for personal attack. In all my experience with him, before and after taking the position at LEGO Direct, he has been nothing (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I don't know Suz.... It seems like it wouldn't take much for TLC to return to their activity level in the early days of LUGNET, ei. no communication back to the community. In the early days we knew that TLC employees were reading our posts and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) We tried. Several times. We've talked with a number of different people. It is apparently their policy that small shops NEVER get backorders filled, even if the reason for the backorder is a mistake on their part. I have no problem with "no (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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ouch. I saw this and was so appalled I just had to reply. I don't know Jake, but to see Suzanne make assumptions about his character and his motivations is shocking. The tenor of Jake's verbage is clear and professional. By contrast, the tenor of (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes: [...] (...) Thank you, Jake. I just wanted to confirm my suspicion.[1] Such a lack of maturity from one who's actions reflect on The LEGO Company is very disappointing. But, your 'using' of this community is (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) you (...) Couldn't agree more... (...) [SNIP] (...) numerous requests to change this policy (...) After so many postings have been asking for that change, I just wanted to give my vote for the 'status quo'. TLC can never be part of the AFOL (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) No problems! Thanks for your response! [snip] (...) One suggestion I'd make - to respond to such questions, please just create a new thread in .lego.direct, referencing the original post (and quoting any pertinent text to make things clearer (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes: (snip) Just a few things I wanted to express... First off, I have extreme respect and appreciation for what the Lugnet administrators have done. I'm sure the job is a thakless one, and I wanted you all to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake - Excellent response. I believe this helps us all understand a bit more where LEGO Direct is coming from. I sincerely hope the LUGNET administrators revisit the policy towards limiting official posts to just one newsgroup heirarchy. I believe (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) "Next year, we hope to give you at least one opportunity to vote -- from a short list of candidates -- for the Legend set you'd like to see us make. When we post the contenders we'll be specific about any changes we'll have to make from the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake, Thanx for a well thought out response. I hope this is the beginning of what everybody is looking for! I also hope Admin (aka Suz) makes the necessary changes to support this. (assuming this is what she is looking for) Can we all just get (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hear, hear! Matt (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Suzanne D. Rich writes: Suzanne (and All), Sorry about the delay in responding. I have been swamped this week, and wanted to run a few things past a few people, Brad especially (who is out of the office on a trans-European (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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(...) I don't know about that. After seeing Lego's lastest offering, it seems that the clone brands are where they're getting ideas now. Ha ha, only serious. Ben Roller P.S. Ok, I need some advice here. At this point I'm not intending to talk to TLC (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Suz: Is their absence especially irritating because they have used references to Lugnet for certain marketing practices (like the Mania Magazine, I think it was), and that probably without permission? So they trade on the Lugnet name but don't (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) But Lego Direct didn't leap onto LUGNET willy-nilly without first having reviewed the types of discussions that go on here. Anyone (and certainly an outreaching department of a multi-billion dollar company) could have predicted the way that (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Current policy already allows this. Jake, for instance, is using his unofficial account right now. And conversations similar to the recent '20 Questions' have always been allowed on LUGNET. LEGO employees are welcome everywhere on LUGNET. The (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Very good points, Jeff. I wasn't going to hop in on this thread myself to be totally honest. It disturbs me in many ways. But at this point, I have something I really want to get out. The attitude posters and administrators on this site (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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I think it is precisly these types of posts that keep them away. Many people post expecting answers *right now*, often on things they may not be able to respond to. I think everyone needs to give them some breathing room. I also think they should be (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Jake, I'd appreciate an answer. -Suz Suzanne Rich LUGNET Admin www.lugnet.com (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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quite shocking considering how liberal and helpful their S@H Customer Service is. why the same practice and consideration isn't true for their retail shops is beyond me. of course this could be an isolated case. have you tried calling back and (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Whereas jelly beans tend to be eaten shortly, LEGO bricks last a long time. I can see that LEGO don't want the market to be filled with discoloured LEGO bricks. It cannot be good for their reputation if images of discoloured bricks becomes (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) The Jelly Belly factory in our area puts their malformed jelly beans in 1 lb. bags and sells them as "Belly Flops" in their factory store-- for about half price! They taste just as good only you can't choose the flavors-- so all the bags (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) This would be a great item for LD's auctions. If they had ten lots, each one pound of swirled elements, I bet they could fetch pretty good money...maybe mine. Chris (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Supply and demand? If people are interested in buying them, and there are few items available, it's only natural to see a high price point. It's like stamp of coin collection, I suppose. Stamps and coins which are produced with some kind of (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Why on earth are you asking them to sell them for such INSANE prices? It's not as if regular bricks are cheap through bulk. You do realize those mottled bricks are "trash" as far as Lego is concerned, right? They either throw them out or grind them (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Dear Lego and LD, These are the neatest pieces. I have heard of them many times but necer seen them until now, and man, how cool! I could foresee pack of 25 random mottled bricks for sale as a nostalgia pack, maybe $10. Other neat ways of selling (...) (22 years ago, 9-Jun-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
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All I really have to add here (since the initial thread isn't my place to answer) is a reply to the notion that I run a site for kids - last time I checked FBTB viewership was 3/4 adult with an average age of 24. We do have quite a few kids in the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Hi all. As some of you know, I recently went to work for a small educational toy shop in North Seattle. I actually found the job thanks to LEGO! The owner was considering starting to carry LEGO, and was at a SeaLUG meeting. Well, it took quite some (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct) !
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(...) First of all, divide the company into it's respective divisions. Even though we refer to Lego as one company, it's divisions aren't necessarily managed as one company. Lego Direct is a distinct entity from the Lego Stores, etc. (It wouldn't (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) As a regular poster both here and on FBTB (I know, Ahui, you regularly read FBTB too) I would disagree with the premise that Lugnet is for adults and FBTB for children. I recently posted a poll over there as to whether people preferred (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'd disagree. I think we've seen a lot in the last couple of years that indicates that Lego is reaching out to the AFOL market. Bulk ordering, Sculptures, Legends, specials like the Super Chief and the Rebel Blockade Runner, involvement with (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Look up the definition of toy (a thing of little importance, trifle). Even if we limit the discussion of Lego items to children, this definition is far from adequate considering the educational value the items provide. Lego items are a (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I don't necessarily disagree with anything Kerry said either. I guess the point is to drop the pretense that a dialogue exists -- if TLC/Lego Direct people post here at all it is 99% certain that it is strictly for the purpose of furthering some (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I dunno, but I don't think it's too inappropriate: (URL)There really is no reason that it should "go with the territory"... FBTB (...) I don't know, I don't frequent the FBTB forums too often. I don't have a feel for FBTB readers. We're acting (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Who knows, maybe the quiet from Lego Direct has nothing to do with real or imagined friction from AFOL's, restrictive posting policies on LUGNET, pestering questions about the product lines and corporate policy, etc. I just figured they have been (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I think LD are often silent for some fairly obvious reasons. Firstly, we LUGnetters don't seem to agree on too many things, so I don't think we send very clear messages about what we want to Lego Direct. Some people want more re-releases of Classic (...) (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) After watching this count down 2 days left, 1 , 0 , -1, -2, -3 it now says "5 days left". At least someone at Lego appears to have noticed, took them long enough! Deidre drb@tasmail.com (22 years ago, 6-Jun-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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