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Subject: 
Re: 2 Things...
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lugnet.general
Date: 
Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:05:55 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Mark de Kock writes:
In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.general, Jonas Marcho writes:
1. New Lugnet Layout - confusing and disorienting. No offense, but this new
layout of yours sucks, Todd.

What parts don't you like?

--Todd

Todd, due to technical dificulties over here, I can only read lugnet
newsgroups via my InternetBrowser. The new layout is very confusing indeed. It
took me a long time to find out where I could reply to a post. I am also
missing the overview of messages in a certain group. Now, when I open one
group, it is very difficult to see what messages are about. Or how to get
older messages in view.

I have to agree here - as a user of the web interface, it was very disorienting
this morning - especially since I hadn't had my coffee yet ;).
I suspect that, for the most part, it's just a matter of getting used to the
layout, and once that happens, I'll be fine with it, but here are a couple of
points that I suspect will bug me forever if they aren't looked at:

1: The text is tiny, and often 'greyed out' which makes everything tend to
blend into everything else,

2: My *by far* prefered method of browsing messages is the 20-at-a-time list of
subjects, and currently, I can't get the most recent 4 messages on that list
without playing with URL's and doing guess-work as to the most recent messages.

3: It takes me one more click to get to where I want to go.

4: Message display appears to be fixed at half my screen width.  This is mildly
irritating, since I almost always have to scroll down now, even to read a short
message.

5: Messages don't get marked in any particular way (that I can tell) if I have
read them.  This means that every time I go back to the list, I have to hunt
down the list scanning text until I figure out what the last message I read
was, instead of simply looking for the color change.

Of these points, the last one is the most irritating, since it (so far, at
least) has seriously increased the amount of time I've spent browsing messages
instead of reading them.  This morning, it's taken me as long to get through
.general in the amount of time it typically takes me get up-to-date on
everything.

OTOH, I think the new format *looks* much better.  Very clean, very
professional.  Nice work.

James
http://www.shades-of-night.com/lego/



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: 2 Things...
 
(...) Do you mean the indented quoted text on the full-article view? Too light and too small? (...) Would it be better if the first More: All | Brief | Compact link on each group page repeated the 4 shown messages when you clicked it? In other (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.general)
  Re: 2 Things...
 
(...) OK, James, there are now a couple links for redisplaying the current message listing in a different detail level -- i.e., from Brief to Compact or vice-versa. At the top of the entry-page columns there are now two links: Redisplay Messages: (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: 2 Things...
 
(...) Todd, due to technical dificulties over here, I can only read lugnet newsgroups via my InternetBrowser. The new layout is very confusing indeed. It took me a long time to find out where I could reply to a post. I am also missing the overview (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.general)

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