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Re: ThrowBots elements are cool
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Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:23:11 GMT
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In article lugnet.general, blisses@worldnet.att.net (Steve Bliss) writes:
> > > I just hate the fact that TLG feels the need to identify TBs as Technic.
> >
> > Because it *is* Technic, my friend! :)
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> Only by definition. That is, it's Technic because TLG says it's
> Technic.
OK. Well, it's probably easier and more cost-effective for them to put TB
under the TECHNIC brand name than to create two new brand names. I guess
they felt ZNAP is different enough from TECHNIC to get its own totally
separate brand name.
> > > Technic is supposed to be about building models (often large and
> > > complex) which include more mechanical operation than regular System
> > > products.
> >
> > Don't the new ball & socket elements count? It's a whole new form of
> > 3D polar-coordinate movement.
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> Yes, they count. If the sets made use of the potential for anything
> more than making poseable action figures.
I suppose the current selection of sets doesn't allow for too much beyond
poseable action figures, but the underlying _system_ surely has lots of non-
poseable-action-figure uses. We should wait and see what Jeremy Sproat and
Terry Keller come up with. They can turn anything into a spaceship. :)
> [...]
>
> [...list...]
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> And a bunch of funky new mostly-decorative new bits. I say "mostly
> decorative" because that's how the parts are used. They would be more
> generally useful for building if they were less decorative. As it is,
> I'd classify them as SPUDs. Go ahead and prove me wrong.
OK, you're on. :) Our Mavica [camera] is supposed be back from the fix-it
shop later this week and maybe I can make something and put up some photos.
> > I think this TB system isn't a flash in the pan. I think it's something
> > that opens the door to a lot of new building possibilities and it's
> > something likely to be integrated into the mainstream Technic sets over
> > time, if not futuristic themes as well.
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> Maybe. I think it's more like it opens the door to whole new *product*
> possibilities, and *profit* possibilities.
I know what you mean 'bout them being maybe a bit overly decorative. But
hey, but they sure ain't no pirate ship hulls or Belville kiddie slides.
And even a pirate cannon carriage/cradle has other uses. :)
http://www.fibblesnork.com/lego/cannons/
I'm impressed by the variety of ways the TB elements are used even in the TB
sets... Some elements seem to appear in 3, maybe 4 different
configurations.
Anyway, I'll build something non-poseable-action-figure-like. Pictures
speak louder than words. :I
> > I'm not too psyched about the TB models per se (I'm not in the target
> > market) but as far as the elements go, I think they're awesome!
>
> The models were mostly what I was commenting on. Influenced by my
> opinion of (many of) the new pieces.
>
> It's a look-and-feel thing. TBs don't lnf like old Technic. Heck, they
> don't even lnf like new Technic.
I really miss the old Expert Builder-style Technic with the big beams. :-(
I mean, I love almost all of the new Technic elements, but I don't
understand why 1xN beams have been nearly completely phased out...
> Constrast this with the Star Wars sets -- the new pieces, by and large,
> look like they are generally useful building pieces. They are not
> overtly decorative. Other than minifigs and their accessories, there
> are not many (if any) new pieces in the SW sets I would classify as
> mostly decorative. SW sets lnf very much like classic LEGO System sets.
> IMO.
OK, I think I get what you're saying now. There are too many complex
patterned elements these days which look cool in their proscribed
configurations but which due to their complexity limit their own
interchangeability...? That is, some of the new TB elements may indeed be
capable of connecting 6 different ways, but a 2x4 brick they ain't...?
--Todd
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| (...) Maybe. That doesn't seem to stop many corporations. I'm assuming TLG defined TB as Technic, because they saw a positive benefit from the association. Further, I'm guessing that TLG thinks the positive benefit is either (a) revitalizing Technic (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) Something I thought of while cruising www.lego.com: using a fuzzilogical POV, which has a higher affinity for being Technic, Mindstorms or Throwbots? My brain says Mindstorms is highly Technic, maybe 95%. It uses standard Technic pieces, both (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)
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| Sidebar here - Todd, how many SW sets have you preordered for AucZILLA XI or XII? ;-) GOTTA have those orange 1x3s, but I'm not buying 10 Snowspeeders to get them... (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | | Please do (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: ThrowBots elements are cool
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| (...) I'm thinking of getting a digital camera myself, could you elaborate slightly on the usefullness of the Mavica for taking pictures of LEGO MOC's? Is the macro mode useful? Do you use the flash? How many images go on one floppy disk? I'll be (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) Only by definition. That is, it's Technic because TLG says it's Technic. (...) Yes, they count. If the sets made use of the potential for anything more than making poseable action figures. (...) Yes. (...) And a bunch of funky new (...) (26 years ago, 1-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)
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