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Re: Contributor Agreement License details - updated version
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:45:05 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Don Heyse wrote:
In the case of a render the finished product is most definitely a
derivative work as without the parts it could not exist. As such it
falls most distinctly under the realms of the license.

I disagree.  A sculpture may contain obvious marks from a distinctive
chisel, but is not a derivative of that chisel.  Now if you make a new
chisel based on the distinctive chisel, that's a derivative work.

That is not a fair analogy. Arguably POVray (or ldglite or ldview) is the chisel
but the parts are a necessary part of the final work. There is no way to use a
typical LDraw file without the parts library to render a scene.

As for means of transmission you are throwing up pointless and
meaningless rubbish.

Again, I disagree.  We clearly see the world through different eyes.
You can call my views rubbish if you want.  That's ok, nothing will
come of it because I *already* agreed to whatever terms the Ldraw Org
came up with for it's license.  I'm just trying to point out what I
see as a slight flaw in the thinking.
Have fun,

Don

You haven't explained what relevance it has though. Do you consider ldglite to
be a derivative product of C, the OS and the chips it runs on? If so I'm not
sure how you can license the Windows version under the GPL since it is obviously
derivative of proprietary software.

Tim



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  Re: Contributor Agreement License details - updated version
 
(...) Actually I was thinking of the LDraw library as the chisel(s), and to be honest, I don't understand why it's an unfair analogy. It just seems obvious to me. But anyhow, look, I like Ldraw files and renders. I want to see more of them. And (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
  Re: Contributor Agreement License details - updated version
 
(...) Actually there is. Anton Raves' library comes immediately to mind. Using that you're not using any information from the LDRAW parts, only the placement information in the model file. And his is not the only library of Lego parts in the (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: Contributor Agreement License details - updated version
 
(...) I disagree. A sculpture may contain obvious marks from a distinctive chisel, but is not a derivative of that chisel. Now if you make a new chisel based on the distinctive chisel, that's a derivative work. (...) Again, I disagree. We clearly (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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