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there is a problem with the dat groups. if i download a dat file from the groups then for some reason the CGI does not strip the HTML etc from the message. (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You're not doing File/Save As..., are you? (...) The ldraw.cgi script sends the DAT content to your browser as a MIME type of application/x-ldraw. If your browser is configred to launch LDLITE when it sees application/x-ldraw, then you want to (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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no. the problem is that the ldraw.cgi script is not stripping the heml and non dat text from the posts... it nmeans that if i click on the link in netscape instead of saying save this link as it just comes up with the article again and i have to do (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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Restored relevant text that should have been quoted for context: (...) I don't understand. There is no HTML to strip. Do you mean that you've encountered a case where, when you invoke the ldraw.cgi script, what's sent back to you contains the entire (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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ldraw.cgi is for some reason returning the same as if i had clicked on the link to the article itself with the html,post buttons etc etc etc. (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hmm. Technically speaking, what you are describing is not possible. That is, the ldraw.cgi script can never return a regular web page. That's not what it does. Rather, it always outputs headers containing application/ x-ldraw and never outputs (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) It's a Linux proxy/cache, and usually it's applied by an ISP for all the usual reasons. Typically a user cannot disable it, but depending on ISP may be able to have lugnet.com removed from the cache or added (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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i have decided to switch to reading through a newsgroup, mostly because the new interface is not as good as the old one... (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Can you be more specific? What do you not like? --Todd (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Some problems I have with the new setup: -Every message in the subgroups shows up. Example: I open .cad, and I get messages from cad.dev, cad.dat.models, etc. It is waaay too confusing to try to figure out what is going on. When I open .cad, I (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) When did this happen? I just checked it because I didn't know what he was talking about. Is the threaded view gone? Colors are bad for me, but I'm colorblind, so they may be ok for others. All that gray is hard to differentiate. Light gray (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Don't worry, you're not missing any information... It actually is shades of gray in many places. Only a couple of the grays are off-gray, and those are only off-gray in a very subtle way (about 5% into the red/yellow "warm" spectrum). With the (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) There is red on that page? :) (...) Well.... I liked the subject being the link, but you've already "fixed" that. I don't know, I'm very accustomed to the click on a subject line to read the message, whether it's in a newsready, mail client, (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Heh heh. When you say "fixed" in quotes like that, is that a polite way of saying "broke"? (...) OK, now you can click on either the little square box or the subject line on any message to read it. So it's un-"fixed" now. :-D (...) Hmm. You (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, so you'd like a link to the part that displays just lugnet.cad, but not lugnet.cad.* ? (...) This is a feature, not a bug. Of course, it's not true that the canceled articles actually show up; you can't read them. Only the empty (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) OK Jeff, when you go to (URL) now, there is a link on the far left which says: View plain (without subgroups) If you click on that, then it pops you into a compact-article display of messages in lugnet.cad only, like the way a real newsreader (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Thanks! I noticed it in (URL) also, so I assume you put it in all relavant groups. Thanks again! :) Jeff P.S. When loading pages from Lugnet, it tends to "stall". It doesn't actually say "*K (Stalled)", it says "138 bytes loaded"(1) and just (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yeah, that's what I meant, and thanks for implementing it! :) (...) Maybe I should've been clearer. They were showing up in the compact view. I don't remember them doing that before. (...) Thanks! (...) Once again, Thanks! (...) I've found (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) No, not at all. :) (...) Yeah, I know. It was late. (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) What kind of Internet connection are you on (what speed) and where are you located? Do you have a dynamic or static IP address? I could do a traceroute to your IP address and see what kinds of latency there is. I don't think I've seen it (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: Todd, I realize I'm jumping in on this kinda late. First I noticed out of the hopper was that pages load more slowly. Not a complaint, just an observation. It made me sit up at work and take notice (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hey Todd, forget that. I just noticed the nested/linear thingy. Awesome! This site just keeps getting better and better. :) -Tom McD. when replying, note that writing recursive spamcake code is a crime punishable by elevator music. (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) It always happens at work (I haven't accessed Lugnet from home in a while), where I have a T1. I have a Static IP address, would it help if I e-mailed it to you? (...) It may happen on other sites, but I can't remember any specific instances (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) etc etc etc. Well, that's certainly helpful. Lessee now... Todd goes through your post, addresses it point by point, trying to be as helpful and problem resoluion focused as possible, and specifically asks you not to delete the post you're (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) There are a lot of things I don't like about the new interface, but this one is about at the top of my list... Everyone else is doing fine in categorising my dislikes so I won't bother repeating them... (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hmm, I kept wondering what you mean, because it -is- there on the group intro pages, but maybe you mean the direct NNTP link from the article display page? (Did anyone actually use those on a message by message basis?) (...) A lot of things (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Well, when my IE4 browser url field displays (URL) don't get a "open in newsreader" link on the page. I did use it from time to time, especially when threads went many directions, as people forget to alter subject lines to more accurately (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) yes and yes. I liked it when it offered both the regular and :8080 link, as I am still using :8080 (...) I'll try to spend some time with it, but I'd say the font sizes are still small. (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Oh. OK, I see. That's not an intro (=introductory) page to the group but rather a secondary page. But it's still one that you probably use a lot(?) and maybe even the one you always use to enter the group(?). Hmmm. Is it OK if the direct-NNTP (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Oh my! You've got me confused now! Where on earth was there ever before links to either of the :8000 or :8080 port versions? I just grepped the old stuff and don't see it anywhere. I think the only place it was ever even mentioned is on the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) All right, let's try this then... Hate to make it hard for people to get into a real newsreader. OK, so for better or for worse, (and let's hope we don't confuzz the heck out of net-newbies), in addition to there being a link in the left (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) No, no! I like it! I momentarily switched my monitor resolution from 800x600 to 640x480 to see if it was cluttered but it wasn't at all. Thanks for adding the traffic link too (a la Chinese checkers :), and also thanks very much for listening (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I was babbling. But if I WERE speaking coherently I might have said something like that, except c /8000/8080/ (note no * as I only want to change the first occurance). (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Ya, I like that. The traffic cube is pretty cool looking although it doesn't evoke anything in particular. What's it supposed to look like? Now, another nit, can I have a back navigator? Right now, when I am here: (URL) can easily click on (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Nothing in particular...just a grid of dots, some of which are active and some of which are inactive. (...) really "part of the system" -- it's just setup information, mostly. Hmm, is there still something there that's not available elsewhere? (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote (after heavy snippage): (...) It's the page that lets you easily get to the traffic page. To me it collects all the stuff together neatly. I remember that when last I used it, all the pictures on the right actually took me places. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OK, you can get to the traffic page now pretty much from anywhere. (...) I'll hafta take some new screenshots before making the pictures clickable again. (...) Its purpose (always has been) simply as the introduction-point to the news-server (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I should back up a couple steps and explain the objectives of the /loc/ page. There are two at this stage: 1) For repeat visitors who know where they're going, it's a stepping stone from the root homepage to the individual town or country (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Todd: Just like Larry, would I find it very useful to have the country names in my native language[1] on the /loc/ page. It is kind of messy to mix several languages on the same page. Even if it is just place names. How do you choose how to sort? (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) For right now, it's sorting ASCIIbetically, which is bad, and messes up Austria, for one. (...) I would *looove* to do that. But where, oh, where will I find a n^2 list of country names in multiple languages? Maybe just starting with a few (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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.7AJ@lugnet.com> Distribution: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Todd Lehman: [ /loc/ page in all languages. ] (...) Yes. (...) Different country[1] (even though Danes do seem to think they own it). Jacob 1) <URL:(URL) (and this one should work) (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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