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    More opinions needed - possible future Legends Jake McKee
   If you haven't noticed it on the LEGO MyOpinions site already, we're currently running a session to get some feedback on the most desired sets for possible future LEGO Legends. Head over to MyOpinions or go straight to the survey here: (URL) fun! (...) (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.lego.announce, lugnet.general, lugnet.announce) !! 
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —John Neal
     (...) The survey seems to have stalled out for me on the "rank your picks" page, Jake. JOHN (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Mike Thorn
     (...) of good opportunities to voice our opinions. One thing though - why isn't TechnicMindStorms listed? I'd hardly call it "all-new" (though here's to hoping ;) ). -Mike (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
     (...) Firstly, all of the themes listed seemed rather minfig-centric, with the exception of "large sculptures". Not TECHNIC, no DUPLO, no Designer (shoot, I just realized I could have asked for Space and Castle X-Pods) Secondly (and this is (...) (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends Jake McKee
     (...) Seriously, a DUPLO legend? Really? Honestly? Or are you giving me a hard time? :) And designer isn't a legend because... well... it just came out last year and is still on the shelves now. Hardly a candidate to re-release anything under it at (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
     (...) Oh, no, wouldn't dream of it. I was just listing a few things as examples for why there weren't any Mindstorms sets listed. I currently own two DUPLO bricks. One is the SW Celebration brick, and the other is the Northbrook Court Grand Opening (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Bruce Hietbrink
     Jake, When running these types of surveys, it might help to run them in two phases, due to the way you ask people to add their own responses. For instance, under "castle" your survey then goes on to ask "what type", and gave the options "Black (...) (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) In the first survey, if memory serves me, someone went through the suggestions, cleaned up, simplified, or combined suggestions, and then added it to the list. There were numerous adds - my suggestion regarding Pirates was slightly reworded, (...) (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Erik Boons
     (...) I know exactly what you mean! Couldn't agree more with you, mr. Hietbrink! After taking the survey last Friday, I went back today to see if more people might have choosen one of the options I suggested. Now I see that most of the suggestions I (...) (20 years ago, 22-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ronald Borchert
     (...) Hi. I think, the survey is nonsense. LEGO cannot produce any more legends, because the colors needed are no more available. Regards Ronald (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general) !! 
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ley Ward
      (...) I tend to agree, though they COULD reissue the very first castle, you know, the yellow one. ;-) I fear there may be no end to corporate wrongheadedness. Peace and lost legends, Professor Whateverly (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
      (...) Except it has light-grey plates used for walkways on the battlements, light grey helmets, a light-grey visor, light grey armor, light-grey shields, light-grey lances, light-grey battleaxes, and light-grey swords (which I think might also be (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ley Ward
      (...) Oops, um, nevermind. I should have checked a picture first. So, I started thinking of legends I'd like to see and 565 Lunar Lander and 371 Sea Plane came to mind, but they have gray jets and a gray propeller respectively. So, again, nevermind. (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Jeff Findley
      (...) I'd love to see 565 Lunar Lander re-released as a legend!!! I'm sure that people would buy it as a legend and as a source of blue pieces (lots of slopes). That was my very first "big" LEGO set. The first set was a very small front end loader, (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ley Ward
      (...) Probably (URL) - I have one too. Funny you should mention a source of blue pieces. By the time 565 and 371 came out, I had a paper route and thus a steady supply of disposable income, so I bought respectively 3 and 4 of each as a source of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) I am not sure I agree. See (URL) which is rereleased as (URL) but in different colors. Arguably that's a case where LEGO produced a "legend", isn't it? I think to say that they cannot do it may not be a universally held opinion. I think the (...) (20 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Dave Lovelace
      (...) ARGHH!! Blasphemy!!! My spine!!! (passes out) --Dave (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Erik Boons
      (...) LOL! (And could somebody please call 911 for mr. Lovelace?!) Erik B (from Holland; calling 911 myself won't work for Dave :-| ) (20 years ago, 23-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Jeff Barnas
      (...) This is true. When I ordered the metroliner legend I was dissappointed to find that the girl hair with the pigtails was replaced with the long straight hair. Jeff (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Paulo Renato
       (...) Not to mention the 10021 USS Constelation that had this piece: (URL) of this: (URL) surely the color change is a *lot* more serious issue and, me too, I don't think the sentence 'rereleasing Legends' makes sense anymore :-( Another disapointed (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Jeff Findley
      (...) Who cares. As long as AFOL's document what's different, we can discuss such things here before people spend the money on something thay may, or may not want. Also, if it bothers you that much, why not buy the "girl hair with the pigtails" from (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
      (...) I guess they'll have to stick to just doing Cool Blacktron (none of that Super-B stuff)! Woohoo!. Well, they're kinda stuck on the Message Intercept Base...and the Invader...and the Battrax (which all use LG pieces), and I can pass on the (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —James Wilson
     (...) I have to agree - if the colors aren't the same, or if the pieces are significantly different (like substituting 1x1 brick with headlight for 1x1 window, as noted earlier), then it's not a reissue, but a reinterpretation. $0.02 James Wilson (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) I have to wonder why people are spotlighting Ronald's post. Precise reissues aren't going to happen for older sets anyway. In any case, I wouldn't buy a reissue of the yellow castle. Accurate? So what? It would still be bright yellow. Sand (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —James Wilson
     (...) Because he seems to have captured how they feel about the color issue as it affects Legends releses. Can't be a reissue if it's significantly different. Call it something else. (...) If Ford Motor Company decided to "reissue" the Model T, (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Walter Walters
      In lugnet.lego, James Wilson wrote: snip (...) Wow! A great example. A classic space set, or any other legend, would not be the same in bley. (20 years ago, 20-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Tom Dickson
     (...) It seems to have worked for the rerelease of the "VW Bug"..... :) (20 years ago, 24-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
     (...) Considering the fact that the last old-style VW Beetle didn't roll off the line until late last year, technically the new Beetle isn't a rerelease. :) (20 years ago, 24-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Jason Catena
     (...) IIRC, VW stopped making the old Beetle in 1978. The factory I think you're referring to is one in Mexico. Local managers bought it from the company, since there was a mucher higher demand there than elsewhere for the bug. Somehow I don't think (...) (20 years ago, 24-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
     (...) They stopped production in Germany at that time, but they didn't stop production entirely. They'd still be making them in Mexico if it wasn't for the government working to phase out 2-door taxi cabs, and reducing tarrifs on imports (after all, (...) (20 years ago, 24-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Terry Prosper
     (...) What's the point of making LEGENDS sets if the principal issue about color changes isn't addressed? Sorry, Jake, but I truly don't care about anything LEGO produces until the colors are back the way they were before 2004. Terry (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Paulo Renato
     (...) Same goes for me. Paulo Renato (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Dean Husby
     (...) And me. My policy is not to buy any sets that contain the new colours... (20 years ago, 23-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Benjamin Ellermann
     Hi Jake, I am a bit concerned at how useful this survey will be for legends. It seems to be more focused on future theme ideas than individual sets for legends. For Castle Legends - Each Week at Classic-Castle.com we have weekly set reviews. I would (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ken Koleda
      (...) I too noticed that there is an emphasis on new themes or new sets in old themes rather than 'legends' per say. If someone wants info on th what AFOLS would like to see, can't you just got throught he lugnet set database and find the highly (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Benjamin Medinets
      (...) However... the set database is what I would call "highly subjective". Yes, there are a few sets that are generally favorable to others, however some "haters" have deliberately given sets below 50 rating in order for their favorite sets to make (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Johannes Koehler
     Hi Ben! (...) If this was their intention I'd be glad! (Hey, you know my opinion regarding the whole idea "Legends" ;) Though I was even gladder if every future releases would be in the old colours. Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Laswell
     (...) I thought people might like to know what potential sub-themes were listed before taking the survey: ADVENTURERS - Something from India - What about an adventure in the Alps with skiing and helicopters - Greek or Italian Archeological (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Rob Hendrix
     WHERE'S THE MINDSTORMS?!?!?!?!?!...?!?!?!?!?! WHERE'S THE TECHNIC?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! If you are not going to list all the "core" themes to select from, at least allow us to input our own like you did on some of the questions. Not once did I see (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Nicolas D'Angelo
     Jake, I discovered the 'My Opinions' section of the Lego website because of your message. I couldn't get there except through your link, I searched the Lego Club but evidently not so well. Once I got there I tried to do the surveys but in more than (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Christian Treczoks
     (...) Besides the "MyOpinions" site being all but visible, I daresay the most successful legend could be the return of the old colours. Nuff said. Christian (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ken Nagel
     (...) It's a shame Lego is still ignoring the color question. I was drawen back into the hobby by the realism of the Santa Fe. This model would have looked absurd in blue grey. The ISD would be an absolute eye-sore in blue grey. Any new theme (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Objective Gray Analysis —Doug Eaton
     I keep a 2x3 plate in my pocket with in three different 1x2 dark gray plates affixed. This shows the colors better than my camera can. (URL) take is the SW MINIs suffered from the same quality issue affecting the purple HP bus. The left one is a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Stephane Simard
     Who cares? Who wants to see a 497(928) Galaxy Explorer in blueish Gray? Pointless. Besides, where is Technic in the category? (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
    
         Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Anne Carasik
     (...) Word. I love how TLC just ignores how AFOLs feel about seeing their classic sets in the blueish gray. Until they address it, i will not purchase anything new from TLC. -Anne (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Dirk Meier
     No Jake, we don't need discoloured legends! I don't need and won't buy any discoloured LEGO sets. I will not participate in the session for this reason! Let me remind you: There is an open question here: WHEN will LEGO bring back the old colours! WE (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Simon Bennett
     (...) I really, really want to see the results of this one! As more suggestions get added by other respondents it becomes a more complete representation of what we are thinking, but without completing it again (which would be cheating) you can't get (...) (20 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Mark Rideout
     (...) Sorry Jake - Without the classic colors there can't be any classic re-releases. At least nothing that I would spend any money on. thanks, mark (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)  
   
        The perfect reissue —Jonathan Wilson
     Ice Planet 2002, perhaps a set like 6973 Deep Freeze Defender. I already own a 6973 (or more specificly enough parts to build one plus a set of instructions but some of the parts are from other sets I own) plus all the other Ice Planet sets except a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: The perfect reissue —Adrian Drake
     (...) How about the Blacktron Battrax? The only grey parts in it are technic axles and pins :) I'd buy at least a couple of the Battrax if it were reissued. It is my favorite old space set after the 6950. Mmm...Blacktron... Adrian (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: The perfect reissue —Jonathan Wilson
     Personally, I would prefer a Renegade or an Invader to a Battrax. (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: The perfect reissue —Adrian Drake
     (...) Alright, how about the whole line then? Bring back Classic Blacktron! Adrian (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Benjamin Medinets
     (...) Thanks...I was very anxious when Lego was going to open up and allow some fan-input for the future Legends. However, I was hoping for another 5 or 6 potential legends that we could vote on. To me, all this input is for the future of the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        So ya want a 'Legend', eh? was Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —David Koudys
     (...) Well, it wasn't in the list, but if you want a true 'legend' from the past that shouldn't be too difficult to do, here's my favourite set pre-1979-- (URL) a beautiful set in its simplicity and elagance. I'm sure the tires are adaptable, the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         RE: So ya want a 'Legend', eh? was Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Jeffrey Shaw
      I wouldn't mind seeing the first set I ever got as a child... (URL) still have 2 of the figs that came with it! Jeff www.jlshawwebdesign.com www.jlshawwebdesign.com/dac - The Dsibani Alliance Core Site www.jlshawwebdesign..../dacsector - DAC Forums (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: So ya want a 'Legend', eh? was Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Thomas Stangl
      Yep, one of my all-time favorites. One of the few intact sets from my childhood - I actually found the set {completely built} in my old tubs. I don't have the box, but I think I still even have the instructions. I had it displayed on our bookshelves (...) (20 years ago, 20-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: So ya want a 'Legend', eh? was Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Ley Ward
     (...) I'm with you on that, Dave. That was my first big set (not counting the collections of bricks) and I remember it fondly. Those 1 x 8 arches were a major step in the architecture department, and opened up many possibilities. I would also (...) (20 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: So ya want a 'Legend', eh? was Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Jonathan Wilson
     (...) That door piece was used as recently as the re-issue of the Fort Legoredo so its definatly within the relms of possibilitiy. But, there are other parts in that set that make it less likely to re-appear: the "TV" antenna the baseplate (dont (...) (20 years ago, 20-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Leo Vermeulen
     (...) I have only one wish: Bring the "old" colours back. I can make my own legends if I want to, but not without the old grey and brown. did you ever see a blueish-grey castle? Ridiculous! Leo (20 years ago, 21-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends —Max Maxwell
   (...) First of all - address and repair the color issue, then we'll talk about some potential Legends. I really don't want Legends reissued in the horrible new colors. Max (20 years ago, 21-Mar-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
 

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