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Re: A new scan for 371 (doubting on fake or real)
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Thu, 18 May 2000 18:33:22 GMT
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I whole heartedly agree with Mark's take on this scam - I mean scan.
Neither of the pieces mentioned were availble at this time. And, based on a
previous comment, this is not even a sixties era real truck design. I can't say
I believe the original poster that this is a real instruction that he has. If it
is, just put some other scans up that show that this is not a digital
manipulation. Let's see the instructions carefully folded over to reveal both
sides at once as well as the natural error such a scan would produce. Or how
about a scan showing multiple images or even the entire page at once. How about
showing a hand lifting the scan off the glass a bit to see some distortion. I am
highly suspect and surprised so many legendary lego fans have been taken by
this. It is a cool trick, and well done, but common sense should reveal that
this is a forgery.
PS While I have the attention of classic experts. I have some Samsonite 60's era
legos with variations I would like confirmed. I have a 334 with a RED 1x6
transport piece. And, I have a 343 Ferry boat with RED windows. I almost 100%
sure these are complete and original, but I am looking for support. (Besides,
what other set had a 1x6 RED transport piece)
Thanks,
Jason
(aka. jasonpro1, jplego)
In lugnet.general, Mark Koesel writes:
> Maybe I'm missing something really basic here, but I'm certain
> that the 2x2 "L" shaped plates used in the fender assembly shown
> in step one were not even available until the late 80's. The
> 1x3 plates were also not available in this era, and were introduced
> in the late 70's
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> And, oddly, step two actually shows that the 2x2 "L's" spontaneously
> change into 1x2 plates instead. This is most laughable since if it
> were correct, would make the fender hopelessly weak and fragile once
> the weight of the exhaust pipes in step four were added. Actually,
> the fender is hopelessly weak in either case -- since it is still
> relying only on 1x2s for support. IMHO, there is 100% liklihood
> that no TLG model designer would make such an outrageously poorly
> engineered construction.
>
> Here is my take: Someone found a photo of this truck. It is either
> an MOC, or perhaps from an old idea book or old store display. They
> attempted to make instructions for the truck based on how they
> thought it might be built. Unfortunately, their Lego history was
> weak, and they inadvertently used parts that were not even available
> in the era the truck is supposed to be from. Not only that, they
> are both poor at making instructions, and poor at contrstructing
> models from a picture. I'd say again (with high liklihood) that the
> fender assembly in question uses a 2x2 plate to hold it onto the
> truck in the front, and a 2x3 plate to hold it onto the underside of
> the motor in the rear. I make this conclusion by looking at the
> picture of the truck on the instruction book cover, and by using
> common sense.
>
> All, IMNSHO.
>
> Mark K
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 | | Re: A new scan for 371 (doubting on fake or real)
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| (...) era (...) Hi Jason, I'm just a half expert on old sets, since I'm too young for those really old sets out of the 60ies, and I live in Europe, so I have kno knowledge on Samsonite era. But as far as I know I have never seen a red 6x1x1 brick (...) (24 years ago, 18-May-00, to lugnet.general)
| | | Red 1x6 TRANSPORT brick on #334
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| Jason Proksch <jasonpro@netscape.net> wrote in message news:Furq7M.157@lugnet.com... (...) 60's era (...) 100% (...) (Besides, (...) You're _not_ the first person to mention this brick. It wasn't listed for any sets. #335 used a red 1x4... I'll (...) (24 years ago, 19-May-00, to lugnet.general)
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| | Re: A new scan for 371 (doubting on fake or real)
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| Maybe I'm missing something really basic here, but I'm certain that the 2x2 "L" shaped plates used in the fender assembly shown in step one were not even available until the late 80's. The 1x3 plates were also not available in this era, and were (...) (24 years ago, 18-May-00, to lugnet.general)
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