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| | | Hey all - I'm seeking input on whether or not my current space craft MOC should use ladders or a turbolift (aka elevator) to go from level to level. Here are the specs (currently) of this space ship: * ~100 studs long (mass part of the ship) * ~66 (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space) !
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | (...) One thing I'll add is the technology time period for this ship. Described in the best way that I know and can understand myself - it's more Star Trek'ish than Star Wars. Though I don't know if people understand that definition..... let me (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | | If I were you, I would use ladders, since they don't take up a whole lot of space and they are easier to incorporate into designs... (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Paul Hanson
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| | | | | (...) Size-wise, your ship is right on the border - it could go either way. I can understand your problem. I think it depends on how you think about your ship. In my universe, spaceships are rather cramped and utilitarian (think U-boats in outer (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | (...) I would agree about the "Trekkish" - as I described in a self-reply to my post I see the technology age being more "Star Trek". (...) There should be more pictures available after the first of the month (March) as our next SEALug meeting (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Trevor Pruden
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| | | | | | | (...) Mark, I might suggest trying what I did to control the location and movement of the lift on my most recent capital. This way a 4x4 car will not take much space at all, and can theorectically be placed both in a tight area or in a wide open (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Joel Kuester
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| | | | | | | | (...) woohoo, a conversation I can actually take part in :) actually, I have come up with a lift method that I find to work pretty well, I think it is similar to your described method, but its very hard to tell from the picture, so I have uploaded (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Trevor Pruden
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| | | | | | | | (...) AWRIGHT!! INTERIOR DETAIL! ooooOOOOOooooo....lotsa grey pieces....mmmmmm Yep...I definately like your elevator solution. I never considered using technic...and it seems so benificial since the pieces are round and will minimize the potential (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Wow Joel - I really like this approach - and it looks stable using the technic beams on the side like that. And it does look cool! (...) <cut> (...) Yes I think this will great to try and incorporate it into my ship. Has anyone attempted to (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Joel Kuester
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| | | | | | | | (...) cool, glad you like it... actually, I only put in the lifts as a courtesy for the passengers. Since this is a cruise ship (think "Love Boat" in space) I am making it very lavish in scale. The shortest level is 8 bricks high, and the highest (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) Cool, that means I get to see it before all these yahoos. :^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | (...) Yup.. It's being quite an adventure building this ship - and I'm going to complete it darn'it! (little motivational talk for me). I can actually use some input at the next SEALug meeting on the floor\room layout. I'm not sure where to layout (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space, lugnet.org.us.sealug)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Duane Hess
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| | | | | (...) My first impression is to go with the lift because it's cool. I think that you could build the car portion on a 4 x 4 plate (minimum). The 'fig would be quite squished, but it would still be cool. The hard part is the control and mechanics of (...) (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | (...) <original post cut> (...) I would agree that it is the coolest way to go, but implementation is the hardest. (...) Thanks for the pointer on this thread (...) <cut> (...) Thanks for the pointers though! more than just mindless ramblings! -Mark (23 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | (...) <snip> I would say it depends on the number of decks. I think something with only 3 decks would probably be ok with stairs or ladders. My Bricriu only has two main decks, so it has a stairwell. :^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Jason E. Baker
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| | | | | Well i think either ladder, or turbolift and ladder. It's hard for people to run around the ship while they wait for the turbolift. (I have turbolift but forgot to leave space for a ladder(Doh!)). (my 2cents) Constant lurker, seldom poster, Jeb (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Aaron West
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| | | | | (...) My impression is that your ship will be long, but not tall enough to warrent an upward/vertical turbolift. Perhaps zero gravity chutes to move upward/downward would be a good idea. In my opinion, a turbolift would work well in your design, (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) After reading Mark's post, I was thinking the same thing. Z-chutes can be low-key, yet still visually interesting and have an industrial/spacey look. Actually, Z-chutes can resemble the interdeck ladders used in Star Trek. Here's a link to one (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Duane Hess
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| | | | | | (...) Uh, Steve, that link isn't working for me. Could you double check it? (...) -Duane (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Odd, it works for me. Not that it's a big deal -- it's just a black wall with several yellow tiles with handles (that's this part (URL)) mounted sideways for rungs. Steve (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Duane Hess
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| | | | | | (...) I still can't get it. No worries though. I understand what you're talking about. I do that for ladders too... -Duane (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Jon Palmer
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| | | | | Great question and discussion! I was just thinking about this. My ship is 270 studs long but I have still decided on ladders. Currently there are 2 tight decks in the bridge with 2 ladders inbetween. Each consisting of three of the old school ladder (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks for the input - all helpful to know what thoughts everyone else goes through to make this decision. (...) Sorry, I don't remember. It would be an honor to get my ship into the GS, though I need to get better pictures and a little more (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Joel Kuester
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| | | | | (...) Hi, I would normally say that a ship with those dimentions would be fine with ladders or stairs. I agree with a lot of the other people saying its right on the borderline... I normally only see a lift if the ship has 3 or more levels, (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | (...) Mark, I think your decision depends on the layout of your ship. For example, my A-Wing Carrier used ladders and lifts in different places. The elevator connected the main deck (including sickbay, galley, escape pods, etc.) with the captain's (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —George Haberberger
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| | | | | | | (...) included a machine shop/repair feel to your hangar bay. George (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | (...) Thanks, man! There are also a few interesting shots of the carrier in the "Captain Ahnee" story, in case you didn't know. (URL) are few good shots of the sickbay, main corridor and hanger bay. Dan (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | (...) Awesome ship Dan! I remember when you first posted it a while back. Looking (closer) at it now it's great to see all the details you have. I've been thinking that the DS9 "open" look might be good, though I now have a lot to consider on this (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) My own thought is mostly just towards the purpose of the ship. If people are the only things going from level to level, ladders are the way to go IMHO, although lifts are admittedly much cooler. Mostly, I guess my advice is to try and think of (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Mark Rideout
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| | | | | | (...) That is a good point - being the primary function is explore/science, I can see a need to move bins between labs - though that is under my current space usage where the labs are on the top and middle decks. (...) Good thoughts/questions for me (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | (...) The answer to me seems simple. Were I building this ship, I'd use a ladder. Therefore, the right answer must be turbolift. Seriously, though, I think that even in a Trek-ish universe that a lift is probably overkill for a mere three decks and, (...) (23 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —James Simpson
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| | | | | | In lugnet.space, John D. Forinash writes: in a ship of this class/size. (...) Two weeks ago I visited the USS Lexington Aircraft Carrier (Fought in WWII, decommissioned in 1992 after serving for many years as a training ship) and was suprised to (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) Ugh, that means you were in Corpus Christi. I'm sorry. :P (...) Eh, I was under the impression it was more for moving pilots to the flight deck in a timely fashion... (...) I toured the Lex with my father, who served aboard two carriers of the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | (...) I didn't know that CV-16 was still afloat! It was converted along with the other Essex-class carriers still in service in the 1950s to have the angled flight deck, and redeployed as ASW ships in the late 1950s. I think they were redesignated (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oh, don't worry, it's not. It's firmly cemented in place. I assure you, it does no "floating". :D eric (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —James Simpson
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| | | | | | (...) Don't be! ;^0 I enjoy Corpus! (...) I confess that I made an assumption that the escalator would be for the command because, if I remember correctly, the escalator was reached almost immediately after leaving the war room (which was in turn (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) Masochist. (...) Ah. I think the "war room" you're referring to is the pilot's briefing room, isn't it? And the other end of the escalator lets out onto the flight deck? I'm genuinely asking, here... it has been a bit longer since I've been on (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —James Simpson
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| | | | | | (...) Doh! I walked right into that one. (...) You're no doubt right that it was the pilot briefing room...as uneducated Joe Tourist, it just didn't strike me as a pilot briefing room. I guess I've seen too many movies, but there wasn't the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Paul Hartzog
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| | | | | Mark, my 2 cents, you should try both :-) i mean, hey, what if there's a power failure? you gotta have ladders right? ;-) -paul (...) (23 years ago, 24-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | Re: To ladder or turbolift? —Duane Degn
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| | | | (...) [snip] (...) I've found the solution to most spacecraft problems can be solved with StarTrek style transporters. You don't even have to have a passageway from one side of a ship to the other, just use a site to site transporter. Have a waste (...) (23 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
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