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To ladder or turbolift?
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Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:06:00 GMT
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Hey all -
I'm seeking input on whether or not my current space craft MOC should use
ladders or a turbolift (aka elevator) to go from level to level. Here are
the specs (currently) of this space ship:

  * ~100 studs long (mass part of the ship)
  * ~66 studs wide (front 1/2 of the ship is less wide than the back)
  * ~19 bricks (planned) high at the thickest area consisting of 3 levels.
  * Crew of at least 8 probably 10 with room for "non important" people
     (without rotations of crew, if rotation then 15 to 18 crew).
  * Fairly large ship with the standard amenities that should be
     in a ship of this class/size.

The ship class and purpose isn't totally defined, but current thoughts are
towards a scientific/explorer ship.

Obviously size of each option is important, so I'm curious for an elevator
option what some minimal size constraints are that people have built for.
Playability of an elevator (are there controls on the outside to manipulate
the elevator or is it just for looks) is also important if this option is
chosen.

A two month old view of the front half of this ship can be found at:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=17862

Thanks for your time and input.

-mark



Message has 14 Replies:
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) One thing I'll add is the technology time period for this ship. Described in the best way that I know and can understand myself - it's more Star Trek'ish than Star Wars. Though I don't know if people understand that definition..... let me (...) (24 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
If I were you, I would use ladders, since they don't take up a whole lot of space and they are easier to incorporate into designs... (...) (24 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) Size-wise, your ship is right on the border - it could go either way. I can understand your problem. I think it depends on how you think about your ship. In my universe, spaceships are rather cramped and utilitarian (think U-boats in outer (...) (24 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) My first impression is to go with the lift because it's cool. I think that you could build the car portion on a 4 x 4 plate (minimum). The 'fig would be quite squished, but it would still be cool. The hard part is the control and mechanics of (...) (24 years ago, 21-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) <snip> I would say it depends on the number of decks. I think something with only 3 decks would probably be ok with stairs or ladders. My Bricriu only has two main decks, so it has a stairwell. :^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
Well i think either ladder, or turbolift and ladder. It's hard for people to run around the ship while they wait for the turbolift. (I have turbolift but forgot to leave space for a ladder(Doh!)). (my 2cents) Constant lurker, seldom poster, Jeb (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) My impression is that your ship will be long, but not tall enough to warrent an upward/vertical turbolift. Perhaps zero gravity chutes to move upward/downward would be a good idea. In my opinion, a turbolift would work well in your design, (...) (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
Great question and discussion! I was just thinking about this. My ship is 270 studs long but I have still decided on ladders. Currently there are 2 tight decks in the bridge with 2 ladders inbetween. Each consisting of three of the old school ladder (...) (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) Hi, I would normally say that a ship with those dimentions would be fine with ladders or stairs. I agree with a lot of the other people saying its right on the borderline... I normally only see a lift if the ship has 3 or more levels, (...) (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) Mark, I think your decision depends on the layout of your ship. For example, my A-Wing Carrier used ladders and lifts in different places. The elevator connected the main deck (including sickbay, galley, escape pods, etc.) with the captain's (...) (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) My own thought is mostly just towards the purpose of the ship. If people are the only things going from level to level, ladders are the way to go IMHO, although lifts are admittedly much cooler. Mostly, I guess my advice is to try and think of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) The answer to me seems simple. Were I building this ship, I'd use a ladder. Therefore, the right answer must be turbolift. Seriously, though, I think that even in a Trek-ish universe that a lift is probably overkill for a mere three decks and, (...) (24 years ago, 22-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
Mark, my 2 cents, you should try both :-) i mean, hey, what if there's a power failure? you gotta have ladders right? ;-) -paul (...) (24 years ago, 24-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)
  Re: To ladder or turbolift?
 
(...) [snip] (...) I've found the solution to most spacecraft problems can be solved with StarTrek style transporters. You don't even have to have a passageway from one side of a ship to the other, just use a site to site transporter. Have a waste (...) (24 years ago, 26-Feb-01, to lugnet.space)

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