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Re: Justice for all.....
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Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:18:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> > > > > Is there an addendum that clarifies when a video is humiliating
> > > > > and when it's not? Saddam appeared in lots of video before, and
> > > > > will probably appear in more during the trial. What are the rules
> > > > > on this? I haven't found them yet.
> > > >
> > > > A good question. I know there was an uproar when US POW's in Iraq were
> > > > featured even briefly on Al-Jazeera, for example. Hussein was able,
> > > > according to reports, to identify himself as "the President of Iraq"
> > > > to his American captors, so this (if true) demonstrates that he had no
> > > > medical condition preventing him from stating his identity.
> > > >
> > > > Beyond that, Hussein's DNA has been sampled since his capture, and that
> > > > would seem to trump the need for any photo as verification of his
> > > > identity (as long as a pre-existing known sample of his DNA was
> > > > available!) The "humiliating' part, in my view, comes up when we see
> > > > endless rebroadcasting of the open-wide-and-say-aah exam, juxtaposed
> > > > with Dubya chanting that Hussein was a rat in a hole.
> > >
> > > Yeah that's annoying, but just the sort of thing the media loves
> > > to broadcast. How do you stop them? Anyhow, my question remains:
> > >
> > > Has the "Red Cross or any other impartial humanitarian organization"
> > > ever actually identified any of the video on Al-Jazeera or the western
> > > media as "humiliating"?
> >
> > <http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/18/sprj.irq.saddam.photo/ yes>
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> > Scott A
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> Thank you. That's half of the answer I was looking for. Does anyone
> have a link where the same impartial humanitarian organization
> declares the Al-Jazeera footage humiliating? I found some hints with
> a quick google search, but nothing quite as definate as the Saddam
> link. I hate the way the passage of time erodes news archives on
> the internet.
Wait, I found it.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030323-055213-8026r
You'll like this Bush quote from that article.
"If not, the people who mistreat the prisoners will be
treated as war criminals," he said Sunday morning.
> What do you think the punishment for reciprocal video humiliation should
> be?
I imagine someone will try to take him up on his suggestion. Interesting
times...
Don
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