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Re: Justice for all.....
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Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:26:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> > When people are involved, nothing works as well in practice as it
> > does in theory. Look at economics. You can do all sorts of nifty
> > mathematical extrapolations with supply and demand, but once you
> > involve actual people the rules don't work because they introduce
> > too much chaos.
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> Since it's Christmas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe Holidays, I figure I
> should throw in this nugget for you debators. I also think
> this is the problem with Libertarianism (is that a word?) In Theory
> it sounds like a really good system, but it falls apart in practice
It (in pure form) hasn't been tried in practice.
> because of people.
Why? Take as your base assumption that people are basically good, with some
exceptions, and set up your system to reward goodness and punish badness.
Suffering the consequences of your actions in my view is such a system.
The devil is in the details of course but it's hard to dismiss Libertarianism
outright when the empirical evidence suggests that freer systems work better
than less free ones and the freer you get the better they tend to work (what was
the unemployment rate in Germany again??)
> Plus maybe it needs to be a closed system like
> those pesky thermodynamics thingies.
Why? Not exactly following you there. Better to make the system open, that is,
allow external inputs such as power and resources from elsewhere in the solar
system, rather than closed.
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| (...) I think that's a bad assumption. Human beings didn't evolve to what we are by being nice to all the other furry creatures, or for that matter, other local tribes of human beings. Goodness came later, when we had time for that sort of thing. (...) (21 years ago, 22-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) True, but neither has pure Communism, pure Socialism, or pure Democracy, for that matter. I'm not convinced that we can meaningfully speculate what a "pure" incarnation of any of these systems would be like, except by undertaking selective (...) (21 years ago, 22-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Since it's Christmas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe Holidays, I figure I should throw in this nugget for you debators. I also think this is the problem with Libertarianism (is that a word?) In Theory it sounds like a really good system, but it falls (...) (21 years ago, 22-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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