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Re: Justice for all.....
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Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:22:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
> Here's a little experiment you can try at home. Get yourself a
> traffic ticket and then go to court to try and fight it. Take note
> of whether or not burden of proof ever enters into the picture.
Good example. The system has been set up to exempt tickets from due process, in
my view, because they say driving is a priv, and it's not a criminal offence but
rather a civil infraction and a bunch of other stuff. That's their explanation,
not mine.
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| (...) In some states, driving has been argued to be more of a right than a privledge. I don't actually know how they work it in the EU, so maybe it's not the best example, but it was easy to lay out. (21 years ago, 22-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Charge anyone caught bribing smaller countries with war crimes? (...) Sorry, I blame my crappy US lack of education for that one. I meant the Balkans. (...) Yeah, but North Africa is geographically closer to Europe than the US. And there is a (...) (21 years ago, 22-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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