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Re: Should we be concerned?
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Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:43:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello wrote:
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> > One can hardly mention dishonest presidents without bringing up Nixon and
> > Clinton.
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> But even to mention the two men in the same breath is a form of Conservative
> spin. Nixon actively subverted the Constitution to weaken the Democratic party,
> and he lied (extensively!!) about it. Clinton engaged in a legal extramarital
> affair between two consenting adults, and he lied about it. Does it not strike
> you as disingenuous to equate the two, even rhetorically?
I would agree that the two situations are very different, but I would classify
your unwillingness to equate the two as leftist spin. Both men were caught in
large lies. Nixon was lying directly to the American people, and had he not
resigned in disgrace, I am sure he would have faced impeachment. Clinton lied
before a grand jury, and a federal judge, both those actions are felonious. I
strongly agree that his actions justified impeachment, not neccessarily removal
from office. We could argue on both sides as to which action was the greater
evil, personally I find both actions deplorable. What struck me as though is
that when Nixon's transgressions were brought to light both liberal and
conservative stood up to condem him. When Clinton's transgressions were revealed
very few liberals were willing to accuse him. Too many people bought into and
spread the spin that it was about sex, rather than perjury.
Yes, I agree Nixon (still one of my home town heros) problably committed the
greater evil. But I look at both men as tragic figures in simmilar ways. Nixon
was a good president, who had acomplished much, yet he allowed his paranoia and
lust for power get the better of him. Clinton is possibly the most charismatic
man to ever hold that office, I understand that few people that met him in
person disliked him, yet his lack of sexual constraint and disgression
overshadow his other actions while in office.
> > I make a promise, no matter how much you call me un-American I will never
> > pose naked for entertainment weekly, like the Dixie Chicks
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> How about The National Register?
Maybe if the money is right. :)
Scott C.
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