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Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Ed Jones

(...) Ok folks, I'm about to open a HUGE can of worms, so here goes. Why is it that when anyone speaks of the Holocaust, only Jews are mentioned. Jews represented only 60% of those extinguished during the holocaust. Gays, Gypsys, blacks and poles (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) You're right -- it is a huge can of worms. I'm glad I mentioned the Holocaust, if it helped you vent. I hope I didn't mention the Jews specifically -- though, being 1/8 Jewish, I can't help but be a little biased. Sorry. The sad truth is, is (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Mike Stanley

(...) Not that I want to sound like I'm defending racist scum, but dammit I hate hearing crap like that. Have you ever BEEN to the American South? There are places all over the whole freaking world where PEOPLE would be safer if they never went (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) Well... Yeah. My parents are from different parts of Texas, I have friends and family I've visited regularly in Texas and Georgia and Louisiana, and I grew up around people from Alabama, South Carolina, Florida, and Arizona. I have lived in (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Mike Stanley

(...) I'm not surprised. My wife Rachael lived in CT for 10 years after living in TN for a few years. She's told me loads of stories about basically ignorant northerners who seem to have this vision of the South as being something out of Andy (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) But somehow, it seems more organized in the South. Take for instance: the KKK, the John Bircher Society, the state of Alabama, etc. (...) :-D How about an openly biased Yankee? I don't know if I can call myself a Yankee, though. I've lived (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Mike Stanley

(...) Yup. Sure hope I'm not sounding like I defend racism of any kind, but something in me would rather be able to point out the danger zones easily than to bump up against them without some kind of warning. (...) Heh, dunno. I've met a handful of (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) I've enjoyed this conversation. I'm in Missouri, where real sutheners think of us as Yankees, and Yankees think of us as hillbilly Southerners. You know, I just don't like most people whether they live in Maine or Alabama. What I really hate (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Scott Edward Sanburn

Don't come to Michigan! Right now its 90 with around 95% humidity! Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) That actually sounds nice! Kwajalein was about 80 degrees F and about 80% humidity during the day, year round. Oh, it was heaven compared to Utah -- today is around 90 F and very dry. Yuck. X-P Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeff Stembel

(...) Ack!! You mean you *like* humidity?? That's disgusting! I'd take dry heat over humid heat anyday! Of course I'd much rather sit inside with the AC on. ;) Jeff P.S. I'm very happy that it has been nice the last couple days. Unfortunately, the (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) Where abouts do you reside, Jeff? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeff Stembel

(...) Silver Spring, Maryland. Just outside Washington DC (Suprisingly, even though it is not an incorperated town, it is in the latest edition of Goode's World Atlas!) Jeff (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Terry Keller

X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 (...) Give me a break! You call that dry heat? Come on down to the real heat - Phoenix, AZ. Yes, it is miserably hot, but it's a *dry* heat. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeff Stembel

(...) I never called this dry heat (In fact, the summers here are quite humid). I was saying I'd rather *have* dry heat. :) And yes, I know Pheonix has dry heat. I visit my grandparents living there every once in a while. :) Jeff (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —John Neal

I didn't know you were in Phoenix, Terry. I was just in town 1 nite last week to see a Diamondbacks game and your new stadium-- nice! Got to see the Big Unit pitch against Mark McGuire et al and a rookie named Jose Jimenez. Randy struck out 14, but (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Terry Keller

Dang! Let me know next time! Always looking for something new to do. :-) "Big Unit" - What a nickname! -- Terry K -- (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —John Neal

<378175FB.F271E352@uswest.net> <37819a93.11491496@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, he's got big hands, but there I go violating Lar's (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:45:11 GMT, Mike Stanley uttered the following profundities... (...) We have had a similar situation in the UK recently. There were a few refugees from Montserrat during the spate of eruptions that came to the UK. They were a (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Patricia Schempp

(...) I've lived in South carolina for three years now, after spending 20 in the north. I never hear the racist crap that permeates the northern culture. I used to hear people use the n word all the time and I've never once heard it here. Maybe the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Scott Edward Sanburn

(...) Do you have specific examples? This is a very vague and rather flagrant insult for the South, especially since there are a lot of places everywhere in the world where people of all creeds, colors, etc., can not go because of safety concerns. (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeremy H. Sproat

(...) I can't see that we do. Sure, we have politicians regurgitating all kinds of pretty vocalized crap, but I haven't seen many real attempts at apology. (...) Um, sorry, wrong. The people as a whole *didn't* do these things. Neither, I'm sure, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Steve Bliss

(...) Any stores selling LEGO in that area? Steve (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Scott Edward Sanburn

I think there is a K-mart somewhere in there, but most of the stores are in the commercial districts, on the West and East of downtown. Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:43:26 GMT, Scott Edward Sanburn uttered the following profundities... (...) Pearl Harbour was a military target. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were civilian cities. There were sufficient industrial and military targets available that (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) I'm not convinced. I think we basically had to really drive home that we don't view the world the way they did, and that we were willing to do anything possible to destroy them. I think we managed that with as little loss of value as possible. (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:52:06 GMT, Christopher L. Weeks uttered the following profundities... (...) The only positive thing was the quick and rapid end to the war. I still think that it could have been brought to just as rapid a close had the (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —John DiRienzo

Richard Dee wrote in message ... (...) following (...) Well, the US has had the good fortune of not having many wars at home lately. It makes it difficult for the opponents to bomb our civilian targets. However, had they the good chance to do so, I (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:32:58 GMT, John DiRienzo uttered the following profundities... (...) Poor or not, it is actually a common argument, certainly amongst pacifists. (Me, I am a proponent of the MIC). Sure, the Japanese would have bombed US (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeff Stembel

(...) <rant> Civilians have *always* been killed in war. Just because we have more powerful weapons doesn't mean we are "less humane". Ever heard of some small events from before the twentieth century including: The Inquisition, the Crusades, and (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Scott Edward Sanburn

You said it, Jeff. Scott (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:03:27 GMT, Jeff Stembel uttered the following profundities... (...) Never said they weren't. Never mentioned, though did not ignore events in the past. Didn't know about corpse-lobbing, though. Did know about the use of lime, (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jeff Stembel

(...) By not giving examples of how previous centuries where "more humane", you are ignoring, to a certain extent, past events. Also, I may've exagerated slightly on the corpse lobbing thing. I'm not sure if spreading disease was a purpose or a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Selçuk Göre

(...) the (...) 90's. "Armenian's in Turkey" ?... In 90's?...I really couldn't understand what are you talking about. Selçuk (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:20:32 GMT, Selçuk <teyyareci> uttered the following profundities... (...) Maybe it was the 80's, I don't remember specifically. I just vaguely remember a story from someone who had visited who had described some persecution (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Selçuk Göre

Richard Dee <richard.dee@virgin.net> wrote in message news:MPG.11e724efed7...net.com... (...) Burundi, (...) to a (...) are (...) I think this was not specific to any Armenian being. I can't remember anything about any minority living in Turkey (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:31:15 GMT, Selçuk <teyyareci> uttered the following profundities... <snipped, but only for repost brevity> I am British. A lot of your post seemed to be written assuming I was American. Being British, though, am well aware of (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —John Neal

(...) <snippage> I'm a little lost, Richard, for what you are apologizing regarding the State of Israel. The Partition Plan had GB occupying Palestine for a set amount of time (30 years), so the withdrawal was very much a planned one. Further, GB (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 06:37:48 GMT, John Neal uttered the following profundities... (...) Wasn't apologising! Was unaware it was a set period. Strike 58. My understanding was to get rid of it, as it was nothing but trouble, terrorism from all sides, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Jasper Janssen

(...) And Muslim (sp?), and Christian... That wasn't just the English though. The majority of crusaders, IIRC, were continental. Jasper (25 years ago, 22-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun

(...) Pearl Harbor wasn't destroyed. Messed up, yes. But vital strategic assets were untouched--the oil tank farms most prominently. Had those been knocked out, it would have taken the USN *years* to rebuild those fuel oil stocks. The sub pens, (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Richard Dee

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 05:12:07 GMT, Sproaticus uttered the following profundities... (...) And let us not forget Pol Pot, who killed 16 1/2% of his population, all of whom were Cambodian. He left the montagnards, the ethnic minority, alone. Let us not (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) You know, I read this and thought "that's not a huge can o' worms...that's nothing...you know, he's right." But then I read the responses. I guess it really is at least a little can of worms. (...) Stronger social lobby? (...) OK, so one (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Re: Lego Holocaust art (Was: can someone help me identify these parts?) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Agreed. Being Polish, what kind of chaps me a bit is that my countrymen, or at least some of them, at first eagerly participated in the genocide, taking over businesses and the like, then got the gas jets turned on them... (25 years ago, 28-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)