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(...) Well, you made such a big deal (not to be confused with another type of Big Deal;-) that I was dodging, I thought you actually thought that I was dodging the question. (...) If nothing changes, sure. Generations of Palestinians have grown up (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't think it's possible to trap you. I'm not even sure I know what you mean. (...) Seriously? (...) I appreciate the compliment. (...) OK, now here's what I don't get. Before you said it was beneath you to answer. What gives? (...) Somehow (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What? You think you've trapped me with your idiotic scenario??? LOL (...) Imagine? It's already true. But your ridiculous conclusion that the answer to preventing it is to slaughter all Muslims is outrageous! (...) And thus your little science (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That’s nice, but I notice that you didn’t answer my question. Should anyone in the Dubya adminstration be held accountable for inciting a war based on false and/or culpably erroneous information? And in any case, your honest belief is (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What I meant was this: I was once a Christian. Out of curiosity, in your mind, does that affect my right to criticize or poke fun at the Bible? (...) I prefer to speak of these matters in terms of skin color, since I'm not entirely sure I know (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give it another 50 days or so. Dave! (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John Neal -- King of the dodge! He's here all week folks, try the veal. Just in case, and more, for other readers, I'll give it one more shot: Let us imagine for a moment that we came (through whatever means) to believe that Islam had a much (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A number of the posts in this tree have had their FUT reset to off-topic.debate already, after I saw your post I went back and did most of the rest. (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build.ancient)
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"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:I3rK7M.E7B@lugnet.com... (...) Rabbi in (...) perceived (...) It would depend on many things, including context and delivery. (...) created (...) So if they were created by a person such a this, and (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You aren't being serious. (...) Skin color wasn't the issue; it was a racial issue. (...) You've missed my point. How about this: a Jewish comedian pokes fun at Rabbi in a joke. A Muslim comedian pokes fun at a Rabbi in a joke. Is not one (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't agree. He sold the war on the premise that SH was a bad man who possessed WMDs and wouldn't think twice about making those weapons available to our enemies. I never bought the direct threat idea-- just the aid and abett idea. After (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That has absolutely nothing to do with the point. Bush sold the war on the basis of "WoMD" (Weapons of Mass Destruction for anyone wandering by) and when Bush couldn't find any, he came up with the "bad man" excuse. Bait and switch. (...) That (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Chris, your hypothetical is so proposterous that is doesn't merit a response. What your little scenario actually sounds like is the Islamo-fascists' goal: Kill all of the Jews and infidels and impose world-wide sharia. JOHN (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OBL is a religious fanatic, not a political one. He doesn't even represent a sovereign nation. (...) That is exactly what I will tell you. I know that "far more complex" reasons sounds appealing, but honestly, what are they??? He doesn't even (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (snippage) (...) Please. SH was always a threat to stability in that region-- the first Gulf War was ample proof of that. Again, intelligence was bad WRT WMD but frankly, in a scenario like that it is in our best interests to err on the side (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thanks, though the lecture is a bit of a waste, I'm afraid - I simply hit the "submit" button and then noticed all the newsgroups it was attached to. Sorry to one and all, but there wasn't any way for me to fix it myself at that point. ;-) (...) (20 years ago, 9-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think they lobbed a few petulant shells from U-Boats at us, but it is immaterial whether they actually attacked U.S. soil: they declared war on us a few days after the Pearl Harbor attack. (...) You keep piping up with tha line. Bush's (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They certainly should have known. Is anyone really surprised by events? (...) OIL? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure I said the "number of deaths" specifically has anything to do with terrorism. The violence, theft and oppression does; the deaths on both sides are only a result of that. (...) My point was that we can't really pick and choose who (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Unless you mean Prescott Bush begetting George HW Bush begetting George W Bush, then I don't think that Nazis did attack US soil. However, they invaded and attacked numerous allies of the US, did they not? Did Iraq likewise engage in invasion (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What is a sovereign nation? Is there really such a thing anymore? Everything seems so global these days. Global corporations. Global terrorist organizations. Global special interest groups. The global internet. Nothing much seems rooted to a (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, if this cause justifies the loss in human life, how much more loss would it justify? What if our best guess based on well-rounded intelligence suggested that the only way to have a serious chance of ridding the world of this vermin was (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, I wonder from where that idea could have come? At the end of his term, Clinton was pardoning crooks so fast it was unbelievable! Besides, you don't have to be convicted to be pardoned. Let's wait and see if Bush actually pardons anyone (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Did the Nazis ever attack US soil? (...) What about the aftermath of WWI in terms of policies towards Germany as an major instigator of WWII? (...) Can't parse. "For" the US perhaps? (...) lol seems like that we exactly what you were driving (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I didn't mean at that level of detail. I don't think Bush particularly cares at the trouble. (I mean, I'm sure he'd rather that headache would go away, but that's life.) He was willing to start the war with the associated risks (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Really? They knew in advance that these fanatics and insurgents would be emboldened? I think you have to be pretty machavellian to see how that would actually be of any benefit to anyone, enough that you would deliberately plot for that (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would actually really appriciate if you DID say something every time you force it, just because otherwise, a thread will just disappear as far as NNTP/SMTP users are concered. If you do let people know you moved it, then at least if I still (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) You don't really believe that it was pointless. Do you? Bush had reasons for doing what he did. You (and I!) just disagree with the felicity of his reasons. You have, in the past, given room for either evil or incompetence as the explanation (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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snip (...) unjustified (...) Iraqis. I (...) they (...) Yes, it is sad. But he will surely pay for it sooner or later. /J (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did FDR initiate an unprovoked attack upon a sovereign nation? If so, was he inspired to do so because of decades of biased and unbalanced foreign policy, which itself came on the heels of imperialist efforts to usurp the natural resources of (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, that's the point, isn't it? Bush deliberately initiated an unjustified war, and now 1,000+ US soldiers are dead, along with ~12,000 innocent Iraqis. I agree that soldiers put themselves in harm's way, but one would hope that they (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As you wrote it, I don't think the Israeli land grab is terrorism. Terrorism is a means not an end. The point is to instill fear so that some other thing (even if poorly defined) may happen. The Israelis may (like every other nation) use (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.general, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: (snip) In my view this subthread is not really suitable to .general, especially the way it's went downtree. I forceFUT several of the posts in this branch without saying anything(1), but I'm not sure it (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John, what Beslan/Chechnya shows is that combating Terrorism with Terrorism does not work. The same goes for Israel. Personally, I found the events in Beslan very disturbing. Even more so, if I'm honest, than the events of 911. However, we must (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To stick with your analogy for a moment, can Michael Jackson, as a former black person, call a currently black person the "N" word? Not that I think this is a very good analogy. Having dark skin is really not analagous to subscribing to a (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But nothing; were the rights of Communists not restricted? Search google for "McCarthyism" & "freedom" to see what I mean. Scott A (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Are Muslims starting to "get it"? (URL) Is the European Left starting to "get it"? Hope. JOHN (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Good one:-) (...) Ah, well, I should've kept my fingers shut because I don't have the time or inclination to "go there" (again) WRT to this topic, but here is an analogy to consider: why can a black person call another black person the "N" (...) (20 years ago, 8-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) A MOCery, perhaps... <groan> Brenden is just illustrating the words, he's not changing them or editing them in any way. I don't see how you can consider that mocking the good book. JohnG, GMLTC (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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