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(...) I always thought you were disingenuously pretending that the questions weren't answered either because you don't like the answer that was given or as a rhetorical technique to convince your readers that your opponent in the debate is a fool. (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) militia? Well, I think the duty part is Larry's opinion. One that I vaguely share, but I certainly wouldn't hold people to. It's just that we think more highly of people who fully participate in the way of American governance. There are lots (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, really! What I find annoying is the refusal of some people to do their own homework (i.e ANY reading at all). I think the meaning of the 2nd Amendment is actually fairly clear, although at this precise moment in time it may be wished (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As you know, I only ask the same question more than once when someone is avoiding answering it. After all, if the question has been answered, what is the point in asking it again? Scott A (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have a SEVERE issue with this statement. If someone borrows your car (with your blessing) and commits a crime with it, how could you possibly say it is the car owner's fault? Unless the owner is sitting next to the driver when the crime was (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: blair's dossier (Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace))
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(...) This is the correct link: (URL) A (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My axe is pro-justice, not anti-US. (...) That is why I stick to fact, not opinion. I suggest you do the same. (...) My original point was why attack Iraq at the same time as supporting the misdeeds of others? (...) See above. (...) There is (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We don't have "cop cars", we have "police cars", "panda" cars and "jam sandwiches". ;) (...) Road signs (speed and distances) have always been in MPH. I have no idea why that was seen as being worth keeping. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ... and Blair has just published his "dossier": (URL) A (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Some questions from down under... In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) ...and do you therefore also have a duty to be part of a well regulated militia? (...) But couldn't they be seen also as a method of regulating the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It says "the security of a free state", not "the maintaining of a free state from internal tyrants" or even "securing a free state". It's a long reach to place your interpretation on the law as written. Bruce (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Didn't we dispose of this red herring already? Really, it's rather tiresome going round and round and round with you, you're displaying the Scott Arthur nature here a bit... and it doesn't score you any points with the regulars, you may want (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where you looking? I truncated, I didn't remember the *exact* quote, and I didn't want to go looking for it, but my original posting was written as a response to the explicit 2nd, and I paraphrased last time--sorry 'bout that--but now that you (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, not close, in fact completely wrong. The 2nd says "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." [snip] (...) If you bother to read... (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) interest (...) would (...) Kurds (...) (URL) Gee Brain I forgot the link. -Mike Petrucelli (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had a similar experience once. Pretty much the same thing, except it was the fourth of july. They were quieter until a 2:30 group sing-a-long of "Proud to be an American" Nothing makes me prouder than 60 drunks singing that song. :) (...) It (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok I mixed up Iraq's gassing of Kurds in the late 80s with Turkey bombing Kurds in Iraq about 2 years ago. Either way the Dictator should go. Do I think Bush Jr. is going about it in the proper way. Heck No! But even Bush Jr.'s self-serving (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course Caesar spoke latin, so it isn't a direct quote. But how do you know it's false? But in any case, I changed my .signature to not have that quote anymore. --Bill. (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup. I have taken the MBTI (as well as others) on multiple occasions, and I don't think I've ever gotten the same result twice. Extrovert vs Introvert is a particularly bad one for me - I exhibit characteristics of both, and different people (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Very well said. Thanks for providing some background. One point I'd like to add to the punishment/end of punishment (or replace "punishment" with "containment" or whatever if it feels more comfortable): I am comfortable with "punishments" which (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, the light shines... Yes, evidence is a sticky issue. And we did use to have other standards -- the manner in which we arrive at a hopefully objective approximation of the "truth" is ever changing, however slowly. Sometimes the change is (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have collected a largish sample (two batches of 30) of these tests before. After a few I noticed there are two types of test-takers: those who are all-or-nothing to whichever side of each scale (almost half the sample), and the rest. I said this (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ouch! This past Friday, the house next door played their music so loud (at 8 p.m.) that we couldn't actually hold a conversation in the house I was staying at. Undergrads moved into that house as well. Well, Ann (who doesn't put up with (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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so i am a pretty big fan of living in the city (which is odd since i am an ecologist/conservation biologist). Anyway, the rental property next to us recently had a tenent change and is now occupied by a group of undergraduates who are very loud and (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: <snip> (...) Your Type is INFP Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving Strength of the preferences % 44 33 22 56 Dave K. If I were to guess, I would say that Dave! is ESTP, Chris is ISTJ and Larry is (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can take that any number of ways. (...) The USA actively supports Israel, yes. So do others. You seem to be grinding an anti-US axe. Axe-grinders opinions are generally speaking, not to be trusted. They present only so much of the story as (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks for the link! I skimmed thru it now, and I'll give it a more throrough read tonite after work. I concur you shouldn't make any life-changing decisions on the basis of these types of tests. I liked them because, well, I was Extrovert, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) a quick test--it's not definitive, but it did peg me at the same thing the test I took in high school, college and university pegged me at (ENFP), and recently it pegged me at INFP... less the partier I gather ;) Dave K. (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was--the problem with typing is that my humour, my flair, my rather gosh darn good looking self just doesn't shine thru. When I go for an understatement, I make it a *large* understatement. I will be clear, abuse=bad. Abuse=CS (Childrens (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't look at or take the test at this site, so I can't comment on their specific set of questions. The first time I took the indicator, I balked at these binary questions. The trick is to pick the answer which best fits your true feelings. (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) **Alert** I used 'your' many times in the following post--they are not directed at Chris at all--just wrapping up, I hope, in one complete posting a bunch of different points made in this thread. If you could read the words, "you" or "your" as (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops! Disregard most of that--I looked at the wrong test. The correct one on that site is apparently: (URL) However, aside from the precise questions, the methodology seems equally suspect. The user is asked for a series of bafflingly simple (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I did feel attacked. I know I am quick to react when I feel attacked (one definite correlation with ENFP), and have probably overreacted here. I'm not sure that we have root-level misunderstandings, but more that we have percieved different (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you for the link; I'd never even heard of "ENFP" before, so it was all news to me. But at a quick run-through, the test seems problematic. Consider these questions: Q: You want a job or a career that offers you the chance to travel and (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. But even to Mr. Weaver, the situation might be preferable to spending 15 years in a federal prison with no one knowing about it. I don't know him. (...) In response to the cop and gun thing or long term? He ran away once he defused the (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Forget all that. Can you tell me why, when I see those Police Video shows from the UK, the surveillance cameras in the cop cars always show the speed in MPH? Are you folks finally seeing the light and giving up on that cumbersome, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *That's* an interesting point! I'm sure Ms. Weaver, his son, and his dog would consider the incident less than "productive," but as an object lesson to the rest of us, your argument has some merit. (...) Ditto in this case, too. I guess it's (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (URL) can find hundreds of descriptions on the web. This was the first which had an extensive description. Frank (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think type can change, but I would wonder more if the change is happening due to adaptation, not because your fundamental self has changed. I certainly don't always act as an ENFP, but the more I think about it, the more comfortable I am (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you feel like I was attacking you? I was kind of perplexed at your response to my response, but to see this actually worries me. I thought that we _were_ working through an issue by sharing our thoughts in a dialog. Maybe we have (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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