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Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
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Date: 
Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:12:56 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli writes:
I don't care if you own a gun--it comes with a free society.  But don't
think it comes from the 2nd.  Here's the point: The 2nd says "In order to
maintian a well regulated militia, people have the right to bear arms."
(whatever, is close)

No, not close, in fact completely wrong.  The 2nd says "A well regulated
militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the
people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

[snip]
You cannot have it both ways--you cannot uphold the ideals of democracy and
say at the same time, 'if they don't listen to me I will shoot them' for
that's *not* democracy, that's tyranny.

If you bother to read...
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=17657

The point of the second amendment is to allow the people to overthrow the
government when it becomes tyrannical and REINSTATE the republic.

It says "the security of a free state", not "the maintaining of a free state
from internal tyrants" or even "securing a free state".  It's a long reach
to place your interpretation on the law as written.

Bruce



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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) Yes, but Mike's interpretation is supported by a thousand documents from the time. Why are you folks arguing this? If you don't want guns in America, change the constitution (if we let you :-). But what it means is really clear. Chris (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) No, not close, in fact completely wrong. The 2nd says "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." [snip] (...) If you bother to read... (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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