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  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) I said why. 3 is in my view too young to get into the anatomical details of how exactly gay love works. Or straight love for that matter. It's frankly, likely to be boring to the 3 year old anyway and not particularly relevant. But the part (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) A man and a woman who come with two kids isn't an expressly heterosexual couple? What would they have to do be so? Chris (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) it (...) That's because sex is neither good nor evil. (...) What you think of as normal and healthy is not. It is a stunted charicature of humanity. People seek out experiences when they are ready for them. This information isn't being forced (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) "Adult content" is a ludicrous phantom. It is a code word for anything that biggotted right-wing Bible thumpers want to excise from society in order to "protect" the ignorance of children. (...) No. Sex is a topic. It is an appropriate topic (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) So? (...) John, good point! At least Jason is promoting creativity. (...) Filth is in the eye of the beholder. (...) Sorry to break it to you, but 'porn' and 'quality' are not mutually exclusive. It is an economic happenstance that porn is (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Brickbay, (...) enjoying (...) *Anybody* (...) require (...) your (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Because if kids were to know more and understand more about being an adult, they wouldn't _need_ you as much. They could practice at being adults themselves instead of being kept powerless and ignorant by their aged opressors. Man, that's (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) I almost would. (...) The rape and non sex violence is more a problem than the sex. I mean, sex is just sex. (...) Hunh? Why the heck not? Chris (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Wow. (...) I hadn't either, but I went investigating and watched several brickfilms and all of them included either violence or sex. I'd get revved up about the violence long before the sex. After all, violence is bad and sex is good. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Sure, a computer whiz-kid could probably defeat blocking software, but the real intent of such products, in my mind, is to prevent random hits from search engines when a child is researching breast cancer, for instance. I am more worried about (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:GoqCy3.F37@lugnet.com... (...) many (...) attacked. (...) people (...) an (...) I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough and because of that you misinterpreted my intent. I meant to say - I (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) I get (from Pocket Oxford) 1. A human creative skill or its application (snipped some stuff about beauty). I would say that the films _do_ represent "a human creative skill or its application", therefore are "art". I think they are at least (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:Goq2K4.Irv@lugnet.com... (...) material (...) local (...) on (...) are (...) monitor (...) how (...) I never said it wasn't the parent's responsibility to monitor what material a (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Why? Just because the US _tries_ to restrict the showing of "R" rated material -that doesn't mean that the material should be restricted. Go to your local public libary. Ask for a copy of Lolita. I'm fairly sure you can get it on most libary (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
"William R Ward" <bill@wards.net> wrote in message news:m23d242o2n.fsf@...rds.net... (...) Well - if according to you its similar to "R" rated films, then they should be treated like "R" rated films. Those films are restricted to people over 18 (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
In lugnet.mediawatch, John Neal writes: <snip> I'm having a hard time reconciling "Jason Rowoldt" and "merely another slimeball" as phrases that belong in the same *post*, frankly. Jason has done a great deal of good for the hobby with his efforts, (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) think (...) Yahoo (...) Why not? if it is _legal_ for them to do it, then why not legal to view it? Are you afraid that they might see what sex is? I think there is enough warning that what they are going to see is adult that it should clue (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is Eduardo is out of line? (was: Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms")
 
(...) I think the language used in the Danish statement is a lot more, uh, blunt than you'd see in any US statement. I think the objection is to dealing *at all* with issues of overt sexuality--muddy, I know-- because of the minifig's largely (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is Eduardo is out of line? (was: Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms")
 
(...) Hmmm... in my dictionary it doesn't say that fear has anything at all to do with bigotry, but rather narrow-mindedness. More specifically, anyone who refuses to see "the big picture" is a bigot. Maybe your dictionary says something different? (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is Eduardo is out of line? (was: Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms")
 
(...) It's called "homophobia" because bigotry is fear-based. Hating homosexuals is just as wrong as hating black people or Jews. XFUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate --Bill. (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Based on what criterion, exactly? Is it still evil to do the same in a different medium? If I, say, posted something similar using crayola crayons, is it still evil? How about if I use a purposely falic novelty pen? IE, is it the connection (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) I agree with you that past standards or changes in standards is no reason to permit something now, but I disagree with your idea of evil. Just why is LEGO intercourse evil? Now if you meant people forwarding thier own ideas about the mores of (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) No matter what the standards of reavealing parts of one's body, depictions of LEGO minifigs being gay and doing you-know-what-else is evil and immoral. (...) A member of The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. In other words, a (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) (Church of Jesus Christ of) Latter Day Saints; commonly refered to as Mormons. (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Well, 1st off, I have to defend free speech. I mean, after all, back in the 50's (or so) bikinis were indecent. Way back in the 20's, showing your calves (or was it knees?) in public was a disgrace. Supposedly there's blue laws in Boston about (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) And here I thought it was cuz politicians were more evil than war! :) (...) I will agree that in a fantasy realm it's better than in a realistic-fantasy realm. IE a futuristic fantasy with violence is "better" than a modern fantasy with (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Well, (and sorry for straying OT;-) bringing LEGO back into the discussion, fantasy play IMO is best when the stakes are high (saving the world or even better, the universe), from the evil Ogel [the *very* antithesis of LEGO and all that is (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) From my particular standpoint, it would only be morally good when the person doing it honestly believed they were doing good. However, it doesn't mean that the person shouldn't be stopped-- nor that one would be morally wrong to try and stop (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Ah-- I agree in principle. That it IS sometimes unavoidable. But making it more commonplace gives it the appearance of not so much of an last-resort, and more of a general solution. (...) Disagree. :) See: evil [below] (...) Evil (ee-vil): 1) (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) I suppose at John's response you would question what it means to "develop normally" and what it means to be a "mature healthy adult." I want to throw my name in with those who believe there is a difference between good and evil. I would (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Of course. Sometimew it is *unavoidable* Please provide an acceptable solution to stopping the moral dilemma of the Nazi tyranny in WWII without violence. (...) Disagree. I think good and evil can be distinguished IRL. Sometimes it's harder (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Kinda like "IANAL"? (I Am Not A Lawyer) DaveE (FUT fun) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Maggie's already covered this, so I won't re-iterate her response. (...) When I say "AFOL" out loud, it sounds an awful lot like "awful". Sorry I forgot crosspost to .pun. "MOC" is another lugnetish acronym that doesn't make a very good (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Disagree. <!-- heading off-topic... --> Problem #1 - It teaches violent solutions as acceptable solutions (perhaps even encouraged?) to moral dilemmas. Problem #2 - It further solidifies a distinction between good and evil which doesn't exist (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  3 Words For Christmas
 
The UK chain Marks and Spencer is running a TV advertisement right now which asks the viewer which three words sum up Christmas for them (the ad concludes that the viewers’ three words should be "Marks and Spencer"). We had a bit of fun with this (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) The name wasn't arbitrarily chosen like yelling "uncle". I think it has more to do with the tired examples involving Hitler that are invoked whenever someone can't think of anything better to support their argument. Here's a bit about it. (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) I guess it's not completely understood. ;) I've been posting to LUGNET for over 3 years. This isn't my first appearance in the .debate groups. This is certainly the first time I've seen the use of a name like that. It really seems in poor (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Sorry, Maggie, no can do - it's Christmas season! I'll lighten up again in January! Can someone please pass the Vegemite stuffing? ROSCO FUT .fun (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) It is understood around .debate that if you mention the name Hitler you automatically concede the debate. That's all Steve was referring to. Geez, you guys need to lighten up! Maggie (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) I have already responded to Steve by indicating that I honestly don't understand his comment. Is there something I'm missing here? (...) That was part of my point. Thank you for seeing it. (...) "come up with the title"? O.K. now you've lost (...) (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Steve, I'm sorry, I don't quite understand your comment. (...) Nor this comment. Your point is lost on me. Perhaps you could elaborate a bit. Best regards, Allan B. (23 years ago, 20-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) I really don't think this comment is appropriate for this debate, Steve. Not to overly criticize, but Allan wanted to distance himself from the typical "fan of lego". I wanted to try to prove that he didn't come up with the title, but alas he (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) (pssst! You forgot to mention 'Hitler'!) (...) And I don't use 'AFOL' because when you say it out loud, it's something awful. Steve (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
allow me to add some colour (oops...that's canadian...) :) commentary. <snip> (...) but it does raise a contentious issue of reality of the set (design) vs. ease of construction plus, the older sets could be made into other creations, if the the (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) I'm not sure what it can prevent. The whole project looks highly speculative. Dubya should just hand over the cash to his arms industry buddies and leave it at that... (...) ...and to you. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) This is probably true. But in a market in which the competition works well, I would say that that the federal interest rate _should_ affect the rate offered to the customers. In Norway, there are always some banks which lower their interest (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) I think you are reading much more into the label "AFOL" than most people. To me (and Frank, from what he says above) AFOL means no more than that you are an adult who enjoys LEGO as a hobby. I've never thought it might mean anything more until (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) You win. Label me a quitter, because I give up on this debate. (...) Which is exactly why I don't want to be lumped in with folks calling themselves AFOL's. I simply don't have enough in common with them to warrent using that term. (...) I'm (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) You called yourself "an adult who likes to build with LEGO". That's a label. Another label you claim for yourself is "Allan Bedford". I raise that one to point out that without labels, conversation would be impossible. (...) And those "labels" (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) [snip] (...) I think we are/were a long way from that point. At least I hope we are/were ;-) (...) [Same here. I've left in the relevent bits I'm commenting on] (...) I'd invite you to have a look at the parts selection in Slave I. There are (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
We now return you to your regularly scheduled debate, already in progress. (...) Richie... I think we're getting somewhere. :) I'm sorry to come off sounding so verbally heavy-handed in my last post, but I really felt like our 'debate' was disolving (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) giddy (...) themself (...) God" (...) Well, that seems to be where we differ. I see AFOL as simply an acronymic (????) abbreviation of "adult fan of LEGO". Maybe it's acronyms you're not fond of? (...) Or four 8?) (...) So where's the (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) I'm still missing your point I think. I don't recall labeling myself with anything. I did try to express a description to help folks understand me, but I really didn't define a label to attach to it. What label do you see that I've called (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Testing, testing, 1... 2... 3, testing. I am not 100% certain that the words I'm typing on my computer are transmitting correctly to the LUGNET server. I'm almost certain I didn't ask "Who is God?" What I asked was, "Is someone who believes in (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) to (...) fan (...) You miss my point. I am not making a comment as to which best describes you, just that you've said you're not fond of labels, then promptly labelled youself. The answer to your question is obviously no, but "someone who (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Wow, this thread has gone from the discovery of the MOC series on the LEGO website to asking the question, "Who is God?" :-) I think a better question would have been: just because you live in a garage, does that make you a car? But seriously, (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) It's all right Allan, we understand. It took me almost a year of lurking before I could bring myself to post here, and being a closet AFOL was my dirty little family secret for almost another year (although my Kindergartener almost spilled the (...) (23 years ago, 19-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) Is someone who believes in God necessarily a Christian? Regards, Allan B. Definitely NOT an AFOL (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) But is not "adult who enjoys building with LEGO" as much a label as "adult fan of LEGO"? 8?) ROSCO (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) I've read about the shear basics on this subject so what I say about it is certainly arguable, however, maybe I can better clarify what I think I know. A bank can borrow from the federal reserve. There is interest tacked on to what the bank (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) Do you mean that the _difference_ between the federal interest rate and the interest rate charged by the credit card companies is fixed, i.e. that the payment charged for the service remains the same? Or do you mean that the credit card (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?)
 
(...) One way of looking at it is thus, we here on Lugnet tend to hardcore, rabid fans that once we see an announcement HERE, tend to go there soon after (for the pictures man! :^) At the very least I know that I tend to go there to confirm that (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "magic lantern"
 
Nothing new here really, just another tool to make invasion of pivacy easier and more efficient. Just wondering how many people have heard of it and what you think about it. The site where I found it had some comments, many were in favor of the (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) I've been purposely staying away from the T.V. and newspapers. I've decided there might be more unbiased information available elsewhere. Unfortunately I've also missed a few current events, but hey, nothing's really changed all that much, (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
You've pretty much answered your own question, although the creditors would pay less, they could still charge the same to their own customers. (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) But doesn't the federal interest rate affect the interest rate used by the credit card companies? I would assume that a cut of the federal interest rate would quickly lead to a similar cut of the interest rate used by the credit companies. (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
If youi want to talk bastardy things that so-called enlightened western powers have done, how about: 1. The international land mine ban (not signed by the US, Israel or Finland- also not signed by China, Russia parts of africa, Iraq, Iran, etc.) (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Apology.
 
(...) 1. I set follow-ups to admin.general: (URL) Tamara replies to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general: (URL) I replied to Tamara's post without noticing the FUT & I apologise: (URL) James gives me a (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: questions on current events
 
(...) Where have you been? Read this: US admits second bombing error (URL) (...) Givin that China & Israel are members and Russia is knocking at the door for entry, that should not surprise you all that much. More about the meeting in Qatar here: (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  questions on current events
 
I've been spending a lot time recently randomly searching various topics on the net. Often I find myself following links from "list" sites (sites that contain lots of links to other sites ex; Fark.com). This evening I came across a site called "The (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) I have “latched onto…specific notions” because I believe your arguments are flawed or contradictory. (...) But on what basis do you think it is a valid comparison… that they are two LEGO sets which are police stations? Why not throw the Duplo (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  If you're an AFOL and you know it raise your hand (WAS: Blacksmith Shop)
 
(...) I guess I'm just not fond of labels. If someone else wants to call themself an AFOL I have no problem with that... it's just not for me. Besides, if you could see inside my head, view how my brain operates, you'd realize that even labeling (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) Richie... For whatever reason, you seem to latch onto one or more specific notions and ignore other parts of my argument in order to make your point. The above is a perfect example. I have already stated that I was NOT comparing piece counts. (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  for the eyes of Suz (Was Re: For the Eyes of Alfred Speredelozzi
 
(you didn't say "for the eyes of... ONLY" :-) (...) It's not dead, it's just resting. :-) Calling for a member to be banned is a very serious matter. At least it *ought* to be considered very serious. Unless that call is withdrawn, some answer ought (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) Adult who enjoys 'building' with LEGO sounds like an AFOL to me. What do you think AFOL implies if it doesn't include this type of person? I think any adult who has at least one of the following characteristics is an AFOL: - enjoys building (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) it's not a valid comparison. [snip] (...) ...or others disagree about. (...) Except that you're not a customer of S@H. And not a major customer of the rest of LEGO either. [snip] (...) I'm not sure you do - you've invited me to "join the (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) Yes. You are absolutely correct. These are the things I've said. The two things are not mutually exclusive. I am not such a 'brick purest' that I don't recognize the value of specialty pieces. However, as mentioned, I don't buy a set because (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) But, you said you bought them "to round out my collection with a smattering of 'specialty bricks'." (...) But you said you buy sets for good designs. And you just said "I have never and would never buy a set only to get a part or parts.". How (...) (23 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  For the Eyes of Alfred Speredelozzi
 
Alfred: What would possess you to bring this topic up after the approx. 20 days the thread has been dead? Your suggestion to Larry has been made by others ad nauseam. Everyone here can be expected to act in accord with their own wishes. No one is (...) (23 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Apology.
 
Hmm.. this is interesting. Are you saying that you did not write this: "Ban him. Scott A FUT lugent.admin.general x-posted to .general, as this is an issue which concerns us all... or at least is should." (...) Personally, I think Scott should be (...) (23 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) No, to quote myself from the posting you replied to: "Whatever parts it happens to contain then so be it. " I have never and would never buy a set only to get a part or parts. If a good set has interesting parts (and hopefully still a hefty (...) (23 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Culture of the gun (was: Been too quiet here...)
 
(...) Ah, yes, Mr Colt has much to answer for! But then without the likes of him, and Messers Smith and Wesson, we'd never have been blessed with such heroes as Rueben "Rooster" Cogburn & "Dirty" Harry Callahan... ROSCO (23 years ago, 17-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Been too quiet here...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: I agree it is too quite and I to have stumbled onto something that I'd like to bring to the attention of this group (URL) not surprised by it's general finding's Steve (23 years ago, 16-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Been too quiet here...
 
I stumbled upon this site a little while ago: (URL) Despite the *ahem* subtle political flavor of the text, it must be recognized that it has no real value as an anti-gun-ownership argument. I just found some of the info interesting and something of (...) (23 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
(...) First or maiden? Catherine Byland (to answer both). No. She's half Polish Jew and half Swiss English. And I'm a mutt with several known ancestors from England and Wales, and several from across northern Europe. I might have Finnish in me, but (...) (23 years ago, 14-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
Well when I saw there was an explosion of posts in the GardenSLUG forum, I was hoping that a lot of people were offering to help collaborate with a meeting. However, I found this, and although it doesn't involve meetings, it's still just as cool. (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
Holy moly! This is great! I did'nt know you were expecting. Man, I'm happy for you and the Wife, and everyone else too! Wow! Congratulations! Eric (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
(...) Chris, Congrats! Daughters are lots of fun, I have two. George (23 years ago, 12-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?)
 
(...) The fans who "hang out" here are mostly adults. Some of us even use adult words from time-to-time. I expect that if we were to see a discussion forum on lego.com it would be aimed at a younger market. Lego would be crazy if they were to design (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: Well done to you all. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?)
 
(...) Ummmm... offering the same facilities as LUGNET? So fans would hang out at LEGO.com rather than LUGNET? (...) Actually, I don't. I've heard the name mentioned, but haven't a clue what she does. Sorry. (I guess I could go to marthastewart.com (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?)
 
(...) O.K. So far so good. (...) Mk2? You lost me again. (...) You're probably right. But having a chat forum on their website wouldn't be breaking any new ground. Martha Stewart has them. How does she deal with negative comments, and you know there (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
Congratulations to your family! I love new baby announcements! For the record, I think she might hold the record for earliest exposure to our beloved brick. :) -Dave (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?)
 
(...) LEGO know that (say) ten times as many people end up at LEGO.com, but another small but significant group end up at somewhere else. Now, maybe LEGO.com could become LUGNET Mk2, but we may not like the implications of that happening. They (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Analogy of a debate: (WAS:Re: WHY SO LONG ON Light Gray?)
 
(...) Maybe you could write to them at their head office? (...) Hmmm... think outside the box, and produce innovate products which are wildly successful? Like, say, Bionicles? Cheers Richie Dulin (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
Congratulations! What is your wife's name? Is there some Finnish heritage on her side? -Erik (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
(...) While you're waiting (heck, while we're ALL waiting!) for their return, you might consider picking up some of the HP sets (make sure you include Diagon Alley) and setting them aside for her. They have an appeal even to girls who wouldn't (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
Congratulations Chris! This is great news, glad all went well! :-) -Andy Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> (...) Our (...) stored, so (...) attended (...) fantastic (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
(...) Well, one can always hope that by the time she's old enough for System LEGO, the Paradisa will have returned to the pink and purple aisles... Frank (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.people, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.org.us.gardenslug)
 
  Re: A new daughter!
 
(...) fantastic (...) No you're not! Please provide evidence to back up the above statement, or apologise for lying! Er... congratulations! ROSCO (23 years ago, 12-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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