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Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
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Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:20:27 GMT
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In lugnet.mediawatch, James Powell writes:

Well - if according to you its similar to "R" rated films, then they should
be treated like "R" rated films.  Those films are restricted to people over
18 unless they have adult supervision.  Shouldn't the same apply here?

I agree with John - it is not being handled responsibly when it is freely
accessible to children.


Why?  Just because the US _tries_ to restrict the showing of "R" rated material
-that doesn't mean that the material should be restricted.  Go to your local
public libary.  Ask for a copy of Lolita.  I'm fairly sure you can get it on
most libary cards-excepting the "under 12" cards.  If, as a parent, you are
afraid of the content which your childern are seeing, you _need_ to monitor
with them what their choices of sites are on the internet.  (read
www.peacefire.org, or www.2600.com or www.spectical.org for examples of how
blocking software doesn't work)

Sure, a computer whiz-kid could probably defeat blocking software, but the real
intent of such products, in my mind, is to prevent random hits from search
engines when a child is researching breast cancer, for instance.

I am more worried about accidental stumblings onto inappropriate sites rather
than thwarting mischievous 12 year old boys....


Don't blame the medium for the message.  In this case, Brickfilms is linking to
another site.  IIRC, the content of the other site is not the responsiblity of
the linking site, nor is providing restrictions to what content is on other
sites a responsibility of the linking site.  In this case, brickfilms has
followed good, sound practice, and indicates that the film contains "adult"
themes.

hehe To a 12 year old boy, "Warning, Adult Content" reads "Check *this* out!";-)

The computer with net access of today is akin to the Playboy left around the
house of yesterday-- it's all about accessibility.  Then, you hid the Playboy;
now you restrict net access.

If you don't like it, don't watch the film.  But, then don't be critical of
those of us who have watched it, and found it funny -and are upset at Lego for
trying to get it removed.  It _is_ artwork - no matter if it is in "bad" taste
or not.  It is not strict porn - at least, I didn't find it arousing, and since
that is what 'porn' is supposed to do, it wouldn't fit into what I consider
porn.n  Mature content, yes.  Artwork, yes.  Porn, no.

Let's not get into a debate over what the definition of art is-- art is
everything, and so consequently art is nothing.  True, I do hold disdain for
people who would create pornographic images, movies, whatever from LEGO, and
that's my opinion.  Fine.  I'm not trying to stop them.  But what I am arguing
for is restrictions for this kind of material so that it won't be seen by
minors.

(and yes, I do think that registering the page with the various sites that _do_
block sites is a good thing to do- but, at the same time, don't think that a
machine can do your job as a parent)

Agreed!  I just happen to believe my job as a parent is to get a machine to do
the job;-)

-John



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(...) real (...) Why? Take a look at the 2600 page- or even better : (URL) you put too much faith in a computer to censor? If you do any research, you will find that the blocking engines don't work-and _do_ block some sites they shouldn't on (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
 
(...) Why? Just because the US _tries_ to restrict the showing of "R" rated material -that doesn't mean that the material should be restricted. Go to your local public libary. Ask for a copy of Lolita. I'm fairly sure you can get it on most libary (...) (23 years ago, 22-Dec-01, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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