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Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
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Date: 
Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:00:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Allan Bedford writes:
I wasn't comparing piece counts, I was comparing building styles.  But since
you brought it up, and to be fair, let's compare it to something else.

Try this one [to compare the Jack Stone police station to]:

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/370

Deja vu! That set has more than double the pieces of the Jack Stone set -
it's not a valid comparison.

[snip]
I'm in Australia. We have S@H now, although I thought we would never see it.
We wanted it, and LEGO delivered it, and now I support S@H. Delivery is
expensive, true. Selection isn't as wide as it might be, true. But I can
live with that. Things are getting better, and I think they'll continure to
get better.

And I support the way in which you support LEGO.  For me, it's a decision of
a different flavor.  I chose to NOT support the company financially, but
instead to work for hours each week online to try and raise issues that
others seem too shy to talk about.

...or others disagree about.

I'm not afraid of annoying someone at
LEGO for the simple reason that I am the customer.

Except that you're not a customer of S@H. And not a major customer of the
rest of LEGO either.

[snip]

If you want to buy sets, then buy them, but don't be afraid to keep
telling them what you want next.  If it wasn't for people calling for
bulk sales and reissues, then how much of what's available to you today
would be available?

But they're not... there's great stuff available.

Again, everyone has a right to their opinion.  I certainly respect yours.

I'm not sure you do - you've invited me to "join the revolution" and
"express alternative views"...

You didn't agree or disagree with my summation: you want better designs and
better brick selections, but when LEGO makes them available, they're too
expensive for you?

Sorry, didn't realize that I was under oath.  ;)

I disagree with your summation.  Because it's not complete.

I want better designs, better bricks selections AND better prices.

Don't we all? I just think that LEGO is addressing the better designs and
better bricks selections, and the prices are not unreasonable...

[snip]

My dream is to walk into my local Zellers (or a Wal-Mart, I'm not fussy) and
see something akin to the 30th anniversary buckets on the shelves again.
Back then (only 3 years ago) I funneled a great deal of my disposable income
towards the LEGO company.

But that's nothing to do with set design...

But today I can't find anything fun or
interesting to buy.  Is this MY fault?

Maybe... there is a wide product range.... I think that most people can find
one or two things they like in it...

Am I really asking too much?

You may well be.

In fact, in this case I'm only asking for something that's already been done!
Not even something new.

But didn't you say "Just because something has always been your traditional
best sellers doesn't mean you should focus on them to the exclusion of new
ideas"?

To me it seems you want to have your cake and eat it too. You want new
designs, but old pieces; you want interesting sets, and you want increased
brick availability; you want new ideas, but you don't want Bionicles or Jack
Stone. And you want it all for less money.

I'm not saying don't criticize the company. Be fair in your criticism and
comparison. Acknowledge the progress they are making.

I'm just begging a company who has already produced a product that I
liked to make more.

I hope you're successful - it'd be good to see some 30th Anniversary Buckets
in Australia. Just not to the exclusion of good new stuff.

Cheers

Richie Dulin



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  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) Richie... For whatever reason, you seem to latch onto one or more specific notions and ignore other parts of my argument in order to make your point. The above is a perfect example. I have already stated that I was NOT comparing piece counts. (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: "MOC" Blacksmith Shop on lego.com
 
(...) Yes. You are absolutely correct. These are the things I've said. The two things are not mutually exclusive. I am not such a 'brick purest' that I don't recognize the value of specialty pieces. However, as mentioned, I don't buy a set because (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.lego.direct)

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