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(...) It's probably cheaper to move the welfare recipient to another location with an open job market than try to find them a job in an area with a tight job market, and supporting them the whole time. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it does (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because right now there are 1000's of people moving from the former eastern block to the UK under there own steam to work on UK farms etc. As far as I know, this is at no direct cost to the UK tax payer - why should it be? (...) Are the middle (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because it is laden with paranoia. (...) Now you are being obtuse Chris. The stats you mentioned are derived objectively. If, as you say, Larry did guess his stats, I would describe that as subjective. (...) You are being absurd. You need to (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Several weeks ago, my step-son was going too close to the road. My wife and I gave him warnings and examples ("that's danger!") as to why he shouldn't get too close. He disobeyed soon after and was caught by me. I gave him another warning and (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All US citizens, one presumes... (...) Well, it would be kind of hard to match those decimal places exactly when you had 10 points in the sample, but I see your point. :-) (...) Not a chance. You see, Lugnet does not represent the Lego-playing (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is that? (...) If they have to rob from the rich (or more accurately, middle class) to give to the poor, at least this way they're doing it in a way that supplies the poor a way to see to themselves. What could you possibly object to? (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wellll, one of you are anyway. (...) How so? (...) What consensus is that? What I think is that he made an educated guess. When you are quoting government statistics, those are also educated guesses. So his statistic is as valid as the numbers (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thank you very much for the inputs Maggie..:-) (...) Actually, although we (me and my wife) earn quite above the average in Turkish terms, (minimum legal wage is 107 million TL here, and 1 USD=1.25 million TL), I think it does not buy us a decent (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Occasionally, I am in favour of government intervention in the employment market. Despite that, when I read the story below, I thought this was the one area where companies and individuals did not need handouts / subsidies. Can it really be ~OK~ for (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, You really are being obtuse. We could all speak many truths about many users here, but most of us do not - as we know it is insulting and because we are civil. I am happy for you to continue to insult me (just like, to a certain extent, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I agree with you Dave. I think actual question I am asking Larry is very minor. But the reason I am asking the question which is important. As I have said time and time again, I have become tired Larry making assertions and accusations which he (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My valuation changes on a session to session basis. I've been playing for almost 25 years (and I'm sure there's one or two people who can best me on the years). The biggest thing that I identify as a preference is not so much style of play, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, the involvement of another person is certainly an important factor. Like I said, I haven't really dug into what the differences are between the various mental stimulations that I enjoy, but what I do know is that I need something beyond (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi all, We were discussing free market solutions to environmental issues a while back. I was just reading the March 2001 Smithsonian magazine, and there is an article called _The Rhinos Are Baaack!_. In this article it discusses private game (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Punishment doesn't teach what the punisher normally expects. It merely teaches the recipient to avoid being caught. It also creates a divide between the authority and the punished, rather than bringing them together team-wise. (...) But I (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GF928K.xD@lugnet.com... (...) Some of the time, but not all of the time. And I'd say, beyond a certain point, the majority won't care who is at fault - because its been beaten down so (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes: <snip> Like I said, it *does* matter who is at fault, some of the time. I reject the notion that there is no difference between the person who asks silly questions and the person who just can't resist (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Frank and Lindsay write: (...) Higher than what? (...) I've been asking something of RPGers for years: Does what you value about playing RPGs lean more toward the role-playing (i.e. acting) or more toward the problem solving? I've been playing RPGs (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. But are problem-solving and critical analysis that different? The only difference I can see is that the latter is played out against a second thinking human being (which, granted, is significant). Is this why we engage in office (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes and yes. I support the right of Mr. Livingstone in his attempt to form segregated schools in order to protect a class of students from society. But I think it is the wrong solution. From the article: (...) If this is a serious problem (I (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Y'know, the odd thing is I usually find Scott's remarks to be rather arguing the absurd, but I will admit that he's not wrong. Just pointless. (...) You're absoloutely right. Larry should indeed indicate that his statistics for the countries he was (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GF7zI5.LBL@lugnet.com... (...) Here you two go AGAIN! You obviously haven't gotten the whole point of this thread. I doubt many of us CARE who is right, who is wrong, who is insulting who, or (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. Was there something else you wanted to know? ;-) ++Lar (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Programming does require higher brain function, but it tends to be very different from the critical examination used in debate. I haven't ever gone deeply into the types of stimulation I get from each activity that I do, but there are definite (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I just re-read the page and the numbers are in thousands, my mistake.... (...) -Duane (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Anyone have an opinion? (Now THERE'S a silly question!) (URL) Dave! (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, here's some personal data from my observations. All AFOLs (10) that I have met (granted, a small sampling) in person have been white. Of those, one was a female. According to November 1, 2000 US Government Census estimates: (URL) of the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh. My. Goodness. Say this isn't so, Frank! I'd debate you, but I'm afraid we don't have that much to argue about. :) I had somehow presumed your job would require some sort of higher brain function--but am I taking mental engagement for (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree 100% Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tom, If it was a HUNCH, Larry needs to make it clear that it was a complete fabrication - not dress it up as fact. Read the text I quoted again - does it sound like a hunch. When Larry said he was "unwilling" to tell us all where he found the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've done so on many occasions, seriously trying to answer this very question (is the ocean blue, or is it reflecting the sky?) for myself. One tends to do this sort of thing when studying atmospheric science at the graduate level. There are (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) HUNCH. Do you know what that word means? Obviously not. (...) What about the word HUNCH do you not understand? Once again, as usual, you've latched onto one word or phrase in a post and pounded it into the ground, ignoring the entire post (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> Further, it is my opinion that punishing both children whenever it is not easily determinable who is at fault engenders the notion that if you can just muddy the waters as to fault, you can get away with stuff to the extent of your victim (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Why the *ocean* is blue" is not quite the same as the three sources you note, which all address "why *water* is blue". The phenomenom of the ocean taking on the color of the sky (in general) has been long observed and recorded by artists. (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) From a simply pragmatic standpoint, I never saw the "no supper" punishment as that effective, including those few occasions when I was subject to it. It was too vague a punishment to have any lasting effect, even in terms of negative (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Am I wrong for saying this? Or is Larry wrong for tossing insults about? (...) Nope. From his message: (...) Is so, why is he so unwilling to admit that it was a pure fabrication? (...) I shall quote myself from my last message in this thread (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is misinformation! Water DOES have an intrinsic blue colour: (URL) Learning" indeed! However, I must apologise for my earlier starement that the bluish tinge of water is due to scattering. It is due to selective absorption (there's the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know this wasn't the point, but I have to say that such an action is a really disgusting abuse. The kids should be taught to work out their differences and play nicely. Forcing an abusive authority relationship on them won't do anything (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi, My name is Christopher Weeks and I'm a debateoholic. Even when I know I shouldn't both responding, I find my fingers doing their inevitable dance on the keyboard. I just can't stop myself... (...) It sounds an awful lot like "infantile insults" (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a recognized English word now. I wish I were still in college so I could use it in a paper! Dave! (24 years ago, 20-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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