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(...) Hello everybody, A new set has been spotted at Shop at Home that will be available soon (probably juli). Product number #10021, U.S.S. Constellation. (URL) soon as more information becomes available I'll let you know. Marcel (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general) !
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Incredibly UGLY I think. If there was something I WONT buy it's this set! What kind of set is it? Made by a fan? (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Nope. Try #398. Pretty old too. I'd buy it in a heartbeat if has those original squared yellow windows -- even if they are updated versions of the squared windows and not just the plain yellow headlight elements. Even if it's just the regular (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) That's what *all* LEGO models looked like in "the old days". Kids were encouraged to build great models with a much more limited array of bricks. (...) As Hop-frog said, it's a re-release of a classic old set. And I wouldn't hesitate to buy (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I think it comes from a time when certain objects had to be 'represented' rather than being made from a brick that was made specifically for that object. Example in this set... the sails. The bricks are made to represent the sails, not to (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) one that nobody expected to be a candidate - why the poll about 375 and others if 398 is the one to be 'killed'?). Kind Regards, Ben P.s.: I have said more than once, why I think legends to be so bad. I am not in the mood to start in such a (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) WooHoo! That's gonna hurt my pocket again, but hey.. what a great set to be able to get! I hust hope that we haven't spoiled Brads or Jakes announcmentplans ... again :-) Mark -me first and the gimme-gimme's- de Kock (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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Ben: You're absolutely entitled to your own opinion on these matters, but you have to be in an extreme minority on this point. In a time when TLC has given up traditional building methods and so few modern sets actually contain traditional elements, (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Leaving aside my own disagreement with (but understanding of) your assessment of "killing," I don't think the reissue of 398 is in lieu of the vote--this reissue must have been in the works for some time now. I'd expect we could see the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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another image has popped up. (URL) Edwards ~~ (URL) ~ Edwards-Parts (URL) ~ Kanohi-Power.com ~~ "Hjalmar Haagsman" <hjalmar.haagsman@zonnet.nl> wrote in message news:GxsLr0.4wC@lugnet.com... (...) yet (...) (URL) As soon as more information becomes (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) This makes me very, very unhappy. It also settles the question of what the neo-375 windows would look like, I think. -LFB (22 years ago, 16-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree. This is truly proves that some of the stuff "Ben" has been saying holds some merrit. This close-up view is completely disgusting. Those windows are extremely hideous. I love the old ones. I wonder what the price point will be. Does (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Let's face it, any of us can build the Constellation from our own bricks and plates. Same thing with the yellow castle. Why can't they realize the importance of certain unique elements within the design of the set -- that's surely one of the (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I would find that a key reason not to buy the set. That and the probably insane price they are most likely to put on it. The set is over 1000 pieces, which would probably be sold for 99.00 US (I'm assuming). If I had a choice between this set (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Believe it or not: I am at least within the German AFOL community part of the majority: at 1000steine.de there are nerly no legends fans to be found. I just try to bear some of those opinions (that are mine at the same time) into the Lugnet (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Agreed. (...) This is the part that seems to contradict what you said above. I could use many of these 1x1x1 windows in many colors. I would have loved for this Legends release to have included them. I would also have loved an accessory pack (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) The Star Wars UCS TIE and X-Wing sets are also good examples. The TIE utilizes such several overspeciallized minifig accessories as detail piece--phones, shovels, sextants, spearguns. The X-Wing uses barrels as engines. Bruce (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Correct, LD said from the beginning that that poll was only for *some* of the upcoming Legends, not all of them. :) Jeff (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Do you want to pay more than twice (or more!) the price so Lego can afford to spend the money to make the molds all over again? Those windows haven't been used in about twenty years; the molds for them don't exist anymore! Jeff (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Oh, come on... Lego dosn't have the molds, they couldn't do it if they wanted to. Anyway, I don't care. The large bulk of common parts will more then make up any old piece-new piece problems. Lego does us such a big favor, and then we complain (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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When I click the link, I get no picture! "Hjalmar Haagsman" <hjalmar.haagsman@zonnet.nl> wrote in message news:GxsLr0.4wC@lugnet.com... (...) yet (...) (URL) As soon as more information becomes available I'll let you know. (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Same here...did anyone capture the image before it was removed (which I am suspecting happened once LD found out that it was available). Steven Combs, Editor Bricks in my Pocket (BimP) (URL) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) John Kruer (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) This same tired argument again and again. Obviously they are not doing it with 1x1x1 squared windows. I too defended the set as it stands, at the right price its probably a good deal. I said I hoped they killed more Legends and soon -- which (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:GxvCos.Jyy@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) The real downside of the 398 not having the 1x1x1 windows is that the re-release (assuming it will happen which I believe it (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Its only tired to those who refuse to accept that TLC doesn't have limitless coffers. (...) Yes, they *could.* And I could one day fly a manned spacecraft to Saturn. It *could* happen, but it isn't very likely. (...) I've heard from multiple (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.loc.nl, Jeff Stembel writes: ... (...) ... This assumes that the mold would be solely used for one set. But a 1x1 window would have applications beyond this single set. As Mike Walsh already noted, it would be used in a re-released Yellow (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Sell well to *whom*? Us? Maybe, but even then, I doubt much more than half the readers of Lugnet would be very interested, since it isn't very useful to people who build Technic or Space, for example. Then you need to factor out those who (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Good analysis. The jig probably would be a lot simpler than, say, the jig for assembling monorail motors, but it would need a jig, nonetheless. Brad has said LD doesn't have the brief to get molds made at this juncture. That doesn't in my view (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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Jeff: You make statements like this because you like to think that you know something from the "inside." But you don't, and neither do I. Give it up. All I know is that making molds to make bricks is status quo part of the business TLC is in. If you (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't have to think of any of those things -- it's not my job! And even if I did want to consider it, it's all very vague, lacking in any hard data, and full of presumptions besides. Keep it simple. You either do or do not want the element (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) And you know I don't how? Are you telepathic? Do you knnow all the people I talk to? (...) And this means they should just for you *why*? jeff (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) So you think it is okay to demand the moon and the stars from TLC without even considering what they would have to go through to give it to you? I'm sorry, but that is highly faulty logic. (...) True, we don't have all the facts. However, we (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Drool... With or without the old windows I'll be getting at least two of these beauties! Some decent parts and a fine example of the classic Lego set! Thanks in advance LD!!! David Kohrman (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) True....it may not be logical thinking. But even still, as a consumer he is very entitled to voice his opinion, regardless of the fact of how TLC views his buying from him or not. I don't want to say I'm getting tired of the getting old (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) You're right -- I don't know what you know. If you have the inside scoop and can give all of us the benefit of your knowledge, please do so. I look forward to your detailed descriptions of sources and information. Otherwise, if it's just (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Isn't the phrase "demand the moon and the stars" intended to convey the idea of impossibility? Those 1x1x1 windows are something TLC actually use to manufacture -- how impossible is the idea that they might go back into production with these (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Possible, yes, however LD has already said they have limited access to parts not in current production. ROSCO (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't buy the excuse of "LEGO can't afford to make new molds." They make molds for new pieces by the barrelful every time a new line comes out. If they can afford to make new molds for a lot of weird, single-use pieces (Galidor limbs, King (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I think (as Larry P and others have stated) the issue here is not whether the Lego Company can or is willing to reproduce these parts, but rather that 'Lego Direct', the department within Lego whose brief it is to make these Legends, wasn't (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Alright, this flipped my switch. Now I *have* to respond :-) Your argument that they make new molds for all new lines is valid. But pleace remember that those new lines are to be sold to 'the world'. And in that world, there are an enormous (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) When I was a kid, new pieces were exciting, and a big reason for buying a set. I remember each Christmas and birthday shopping season begging for certain sets because of the new parts, or existing parts in new colors, that were included. I (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Hmm, I seem to have ordered a bag of white classic 1x2x2 windows from S@H a year or so ago... The thing that can be done with the 1x1x1 classic window which is real nice is to make a decent looking mullioned window. Of course those don't show (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) This has been your standard argument in the past against conjecture and speculation, even when it has been based on intimate knowledge of the industries involved. I've argued quite successfully against your standard argument as being invalid (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) It's not a "they" it's a "them". There is a big difference! The group making new molds is not LD. Large complex organizations sometimes have large complex budgeting schemes. Brad has said his organization does not currently have the brief to (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) They're the new ones, not the old ones. They don't have a projecting lip that juts out in front at the bottom, as did the entire old family except the 1x6x3 . If the 1x1 was revived a decision would need to be made whether to revive it exactly (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I have an original of set 398 and in my version, the 1x1 windows do not have glass backings. -- Thomas Main thomasmain@hotmail.com (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't worry about it at all. Feel free to speculate, not that you need my permission. I just don't like it when people assert speculative reasoning as the grounds set certain for why a thing cannot be done. That's basically absurd, because (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Are you sure about that lip on the windows, Larry? I'm at work right now and can't check, but I seem to recall that the only window that had that annoying protruding bottom lip that interfered with bricks in front was the 1x6x3. I thought the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) Dunno about the rest, but the 1x4x2, 1x2x2 & 1x1x2 definitely had a lipped version. ROSCO (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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David Koudys wrote in message ... (...) Yes, the old ones in several sizes did have the protruding lip - I have several. Also see Gary Istok's "History of Lego Windows" articles: Part 1 (URL) 2 (URL) 3 (2 URLs) tan facade kit, 427 pieces! (URL) TOWN (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) [snip] (...) Hi Lar, just lost a '+' for today... The none-compatible classic windows have been stopped in 1972 (at least for Europe - no idea about samsonite windows). Sets like London Bus 313 (from 1971) or train buildings 343 and 342 (late (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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(...) [Snip Gary's links] The German Lego Fan Karl-Heinz ('legofreak') has a really good and very infomative page concerning the classic windows (lots of pictures as examples). (URL) Regards, Ben (22 years ago, 21-Jun-02, to lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.general)
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