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Re: Saturday General Session Announcements
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lugnet.events.brickswest, lugnet.events.brickfest
Date: 
Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:53:53 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickswest, Dave Johann wrote:
Interesting. So those of us who would likely be involved in attempting to
set an event up are conveniently left out of the loop while the event itself
is moved more than 1000 miles north of it's original location and well out of
the realm of possibility for attending for most of the southwestern US.

     If you read exactly what was written, without superimposing any unstated
ideas on top of it, you'll see that _NOTHING_ is moving.  The name BricksWest is
owned by the MIA owner of Bricks Magazine, and considering how long it has been
since anyone has heard anything in regards to that, I'd be very surprised if
BW04 preparation is on schedule either.  Since he _owns_ the name, you can't
legally have "BricksWest" without him.  Period.  What I see here is that a group
of people decided that there's no point in sitting around and waiting until
February to see if BW04 is going to happen or not, so they're trying to put
together a new Pacific Coast convention for 2004 before it's too late.  Yes, I
agree that bumping it that far north makes it very difficult for the SoCal+ area
to attend, but then again, I live in Michigan, so you'll have to forgive me if I
don't have a lot of sympathy to spare you in that regard.  I don't have BF, I
don't have BW, I don't have LLCA, and the nearest LEGO store is half a day away.

     I've been seeing people moan about this for most of a day now, and it's
getting to be a bit much, considering that's all anyone is doing.  You need to
realize that you aren't in the same basket as the residents of Milwaukee who had
GenCon taken away from them this year (and by extension the world championships
of most CCGs, biggest announcements from most RPGs, and what's generally the
cream of the Con guests).  Noone is moving BricksWest.  It's just that after
months of not hearing a peep from the owner, noone expects it to even happen
next year.  One group of people is trying to put together a replacement, and
they've decided to start it out in Oregon.  They aren't the "official"
replacement.  Noone is.  If you really want a SoCal/LLCA brick convention, go
start one up yourselves while you've still got time, and please stop complaining
that other people are taking BW away from you.

     For myself, I'm not sure why anyone would want to go to Portland in
February and hang out in 50 degree or lower temperatures when they could be
hanging out in sunny SoCal.  I also don't think the idea of a roving major con
is going to fly very well.  I expect what will happen is that people will stop
travelling to it unless it's closer to where they live, and what you'll
basically end up with is a staggered series of isolated mini-cons that show up
every couple of years and don't have a lot of cross-attendance.  There was even
a lot of apprehension about how well GenCon would fare after moving two states
away on a semi-permanent basis (there's been talk of Milwaukee trying to woo
them back, but I think the glut of available hotel space will be enough to keep
them where they are for quite a few years to come).  You lose the ability to
atract world-of-mouth visitors at each location if they end up having to wait
3-4 years to go to an event that their friends were talking about last year.
Worse yet, every new place you bounce around to is just one more year before you
even start to see any of the first batch of WoM visitors (those that still
remember wanting to go, at least).



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Saturday General Session Announcements
 
(...) Fair enough. Though that wasn't what was presented to us yesterday, but fine, we'll go with your analysis for now. (...) Partly true. What I see is a group of people trying to put together an event more than 1000 miles away on the same weekend (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.events.brickswest, lugnet.events.brickfest)
  Re: Saturday General Session Announcements
 
(...) Who cares what the weather is? Well, at least so long as it isn't weather that makes travel hard. Portland in February is really not so bad. Roving conventions actually do quite well. True, their attendance varies very much depending on who is (...) (21 years ago, 11-Aug-03, to lugnet.events.brickswest, lugnet.events.brickfest)

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  Re: Saturday General Session Announcements
 
(...) Interesting. So those of us who would likely be involved in attempting to set an event up are conveniently left out of the loop while the event itself is moved more than 1000 miles north of it's original location and well out of the realm of (...) (21 years ago, 10-Aug-03, to lugnet.events.brickswest, lugnet.events.brickfest)

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